announcing this folder is empty
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Don H
Running Win 11 2022 h2 with all updates and NvDa 2022.4. Just noticed today that NVDA is announcing this folder is empty when you open a empty folder for the recycle bin when it is empty as well as any other folder that is empty. Just never heard this announcment before.
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Don H
With further investigations it seems that the NVDA addon Windows App Essentials 23.02 is causing this to occur.
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On 2/8/2023 5:06 PM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 11 2022 h2 with all updates and NvDa 2022.4. Just noticed today that NVDA is announcing this folder is empty when you open a empty folder for the recycle bin when it is empty as well as any other folder that is empty. Just never heard this announcment before. |
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Hi, It is indeed Windows Ap Essentials add-on. This is actually a bug fix - NVDA does not announce "this folder is empty" by default as reported here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5759 The fix was originally part of an add-on named Explorer Enhancements (author: Javi Dominguez). Since the only thing that add-on did was provide this bug fix, I asked the add-on author about incorporating it into Windows App Essentials as part of a suite of changes to improve the user experience in File Explorer and Windows shell (the author did say yes, with Explorer Enhancements deprecated as a result). Cheers, Joseph |
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I noticed as well, looks like a tool tip of some kind which is reading. I kind of like it. Maybe this is a windows feature?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 3:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] announcing this folder is empty Running Win 11 2022 h2 with all updates and NvDa 2022.4. Just noticed today that NVDA is announcing this folder is empty when you open a empty folder for the recycle bin when it is empty as well as any other folder that is empty. Just never heard this announcment before. -- ---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind. Visit my website ( http://flyingblind.us ) to read my story. Windows 11 22H2 (x64) build 22621.963 NVDA Version: 2022.3.3 Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2211 Build 16.0.15831.20098) 64-bit |
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OH nice I noticed and it actually made my progress a bit faster, you will also hear "working on it' if the folder is slow to open.!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 3:51 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] announcing this folder is empty With further investigations it seems that the NVDA addon Windows App Essentials 23.02 is causing this to occur. On 2/8/2023 5:06 PM, Don H wrote: Running Win 11 2022 h2 with all updates and NvDa 2022.4. Just noticed -- ---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind. Visit my website ( http://flyingblind.us ) to read my story. Windows 11 22H2 (x64) build 22621.963 NVDA Version: 2022.3.3 Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2211 Build 16.0.15831.20098) 64-bit |
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Hi, If a folder is empty or takes a while to open, the content area where you would normally find folders and files list will show a text informing you of this. This is also the same mechanism used to warn you about system files and folders instead of displaying them. Cheers, Joseph |
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Gene
This is an interesting example of how something can easily be seen
in one navigation mode and not easily in another.
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In screen review mode, the this text is empty notification can easily be found. In object review, you have to move up two levels, then navigate the object you are in. I'm not making any generalization about in which mode you are more likely to see things. I'm saying that if you want to go beyond using the keyboard, it is beneficial to know both. Gene On 2/9/2023 7:32 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Hi, This bug fix does not rely on review cursor at all - it catches certain UIA events coming from File Explorer to locate the text in question (more specifically, the text control) then announces what the text says. Cheers, Joseph |
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