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Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Jacob Kruger
 

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html


They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of NVDA to recognize visited links.  I have used Edge with great success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer Firefox as my default browser.

On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html


They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Jacob Kruger
 

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I
really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding
it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then,
hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle
it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it
interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of NVDA
to recognize visited links.  I have used Edge with great success on
and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer Firefox as my
default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."



Mallard
 

I love Edge, because it can read epub ebooks without problems.

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 05/12/2018 15:24, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of NVDA to recognize visited links.  I have used Edge with great success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer Firefox as my default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html


They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."



 

Hi,
Like any rumors, this is bound to change without notice if market conditions and other variables change.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then, hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of NVDA
to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great success on
and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer Firefox as my
default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace
-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."



Felix G.
 

Hi!
If the new variant will be Chromium-based, chances are it will play
nice with NVDA.
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 15:37 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee
<@joslee>:


Hi,
Like any rumors, this is bound to change without notice if market conditions and other variables change.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then, hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of NVDA
to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great success on
and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer Firefox as my
default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace
-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."







 

Hi,
This changes if Microsoft insists on using UIA to communicate with the supposed new browser/rendering engine.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Hi!
If the new variant will be Chromium-based, chances are it will play nice with NVDA.
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 15:37 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee
<@joslee>:

Hi,
Like any rumors, this is bound to change without notice if market conditions and other variables change.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with
chrome-based browser for windows 10

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then, hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of
NVDA to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great
success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer
Firefox as my default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-repla
ce -edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."







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All we need now is for them to announce a return to normal menu bars etc as a format choice in their software and the ability to still get security updates to 10 without a 6 month re install of windows with its attendant cock ups and the need to relearn how to do things and we will be fine......
Flying pig alert.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10


Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of NVDA to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer Firefox as my default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-replace-edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html


They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


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Yes the fact is there are cut down versions of chrome and firefox et all out there that have no accessibility whatsoever so it is presumably the choice of the company using the engine how they enable access. I just hope that if this proves to be true, they do not make such a cock up with it as they did in the start of Edge.
Brian who hopes the Skype programmers are not in charge of it :-)


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10


Hi,
This changes if Microsoft insists on using UIA to communicate with the supposed new browser/rendering engine.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Hi!
If the new variant will be Chromium-based, chances are it will play nice with NVDA.
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 15:37 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee
<@joslee>:

Hi,
Like any rumors, this is bound to change without notice if market conditions and other variables change.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with
chrome-based browser for windows 10

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then, hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of
NVDA to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great
success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer
Firefox as my default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-repla
ce -edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."







Jason White
 

It's reported here that UIA clients such as Narrator can now access the IAccessible2 API used by Chrome.
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-build-18267-heads-out-fast-ring-insiders
(not yet released, apparently)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Hi,
This changes if Microsoft insists on using UIA to communicate with the supposed new browser/rendering engine.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Hi!
If the new variant will be Chromium-based, chances are it will play nice with NVDA.
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 15:37 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee
<@joslee>:

Hi,
Like any rumors, this is bound to change without notice if market conditions and other variables change.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with
chrome-based browser for windows 10

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then, hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of
NVDA to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great
success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer
Firefox as my default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-repla
ce -edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."







Felix G.
 

Don't worry, I have every reason to believe they are very much
committed to accessibility. The transition to UIA was for very valid
reasons even though it created some uncomfortable moments, but that's
what happens for most paradigm shifts.
Let's all make liberal use of the feedback hub when things break for us.
All the best,
Felix
Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 17:32 Uhr schrieb Jason White via Groups.Io
<jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>:


It's reported here that UIA clients such as Narrator can now access the IAccessible2 API used by Chrome.
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-build-18267-heads-out-fast-ring-insiders
(not yet released, apparently)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Hi,
This changes if Microsoft insists on using UIA to communicate with the supposed new browser/rendering engine.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with chrome-based browser for windows 10

Hi!
If the new variant will be Chromium-based, chances are it will play nice with NVDA.
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 15:37 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee
<@joslee>:

Hi,
Like any rumors, this is bound to change without notice if market conditions and other variables change.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article: Microsoft will replace edge with
chrome-based browser for windows 10

Ron, while I, honestly, haven't bothered trying out edge too much, all I really meant with my comment was that, if MS themselves are discarding it, then it might not merit much more attention from the NVDA developers?


And, if it's going to come up in it's current state at times, then, hopefully NVDA versions won't get confused about how they should handle it - if differently at all.


But, I primarily just posted this article here since I found it interesting from a browser end-user point of view.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-12-05 4:24 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


The only issue I have had with NVDA and Edge is the inability of
NVDA to recognize visited links. I have used Edge with great
success on and off over the past year or so--although I do prefer
Firefox as my default browser.


On 12/5/2018 5:50 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/288342-microsoft-will-repla
ce -edge-with-chrome-based-browser-for-windows-10-report.html



They don't mention anything like time-scale, but, presume this will
mean NVDA devs, etc. can leave out too much worrying about edge
buffering compatibility?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."