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audio latency with wireless headset

Ikrami <blindathlete6@...>
 

hi, i recently bought Microsoft modern wireless headset, it connects to the pc via either bluetooth or a wireless USB dongle. I can understand that bluetooth may have some lag when transmitting audio, but i still have noticeable lag when i connect the usb receiver as well. Could this problem be related to this particular headset and not nvda? Is there any setting that i can modify so that NVDA works better with the headset?
thanks and happy holidays.
Sarah k Alawami
 

It might be the headset. I'm using a corsair virtuoso xtr headset in usb
mode and have no lag as far as I can tell with nvda.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ikrami
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2022 8:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audio latency with wireless headset

hi, i recently bought Microsoft modern wireless headset, it connects to the
pc via either bluetooth or a wireless USB dongle. I can understand that
bluetooth may have some lag when transmitting audio, but i still have
noticeable lag when i connect the usb receiver as well. Could this problem
be related to this particular headset and not nvda? Is there any setting
that i can modify so that NVDA works better with the headset?
thanks and happy holidays.
Brian Vogel
 

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 11:41 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
It might be the headset.
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It can always, possibly, be the headset.

It's a useful test to see if the performance is any different using Bluetooth vs. USB.  And in the case of NVDA, if using Bluetooth, make sure to have one of the "cancel lag due to Bluetooth sleeping" mechanisms running so that this is not a part of the mix.
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Sarah k Alawami
 

If it is USB, however, will that make a difference. I’ve not used bt on windows, I use wireless for some of my headsets, but never bt. I’m just curious as I really lack knowledge here. I know, shocking eh? Lol!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2022 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio latency with wireless headset

 

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 11:41 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the headset.

-
It can always, possibly, be the headset.

It's a useful test to see if the performance is any different using Bluetooth vs. USB.  And in the case of NVDA, if using Bluetooth, make sure to have one of the "cancel lag due to Bluetooth sleeping" mechanisms running so that this is not a part of the mix.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson
Brian Vogel
 

Sarah,

The communication protocol used absolutely could make a difference.  That doesn't mean it will make a difference.

You pretty much have to do trial and error with a given piece of hardware to make that determination.  Diagnostics of all sorts are pretty much a game of systematic trials and monitoring of the results of each.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson
Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep true, something I often forget. Hope the OP can solve their issue, knock on wood, so far I’ve not had any issues.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2022 10:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio latency with wireless headset

 

Sarah,

The communication protocol used absolutely could make a difference.  That doesn't mean it will make a difference.

You pretty much have to do trial and error with a given piece of hardware to make that determination.  Diagnostics of all sorts are pretty much a game of systematic trials and monitoring of the results of each.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

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       ~ Tom Masson
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I think because any audio device plugged into USB will be seen as another sound device you are at the mercy of the design and drivers. It seems some headphones are laggy, whiile others not.
Bluetooth makes a difference on my phone, ie Apple phone, apple headset, no problem, third party Bluetooth speaker, one sees a lag, and suppose the lag is of little consequence to most users.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] audio latency with wireless headset


Yep true, something I often forget. Hope the OP can solve their issue, knock on wood, so far I’ve not had any issues.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2022 10:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio latency with wireless headset



Sarah,

The communication protocol used absolutely could make a difference. That doesn't mean it will make a difference.

You pretty much have to do trial and error with a given piece of hardware to make that determination. Diagnostics of all sorts are pretty much a game of systematic trials and monitoring of the results of each.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson
Michaela Dlhá
 

Hi all,


i think it's a hardware specific problem. I use several heatsets connected via USB and have never had a problem.


Michaela


Dňa 25. 12. 2022 o 9:42 Brian's Mail list account via groups.io napísal(a):
I think because any audio device plugged into USB will be seen as another sound device you are at the mercy of the design and drivers. It seems some headphones are laggy, whiile others not.
Bluetooth makes a difference on my phone, ie Apple phone, apple headset, no problem, third party Bluetooth speaker, one sees a lag, and suppose the lag is of little consequence to most users.
Brian 

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tim
 

The only time I run into this is with cheep or out dated bluetooth products.

With all my namebrand products like bose, samsung and skullCandy never needed the work arounds needed..


On 12/25/2022 6:09 AM, Michaela Dlhá wrote:

Hi all,


i think it's a hardware specific problem. I use several heatsets connected via USB and have never had a problem.


Michaela


Dňa 25. 12. 2022 o 9:42 Brian's Mail list account via groups.io napísal(a):
I think because any audio device plugged into USB will be seen as another sound device you are at the mercy of the design and drivers. It seems some headphones are laggy, whiile others not.
Bluetooth makes a difference on my phone, ie Apple phone, apple headset, no problem, third party Bluetooth speaker, one sees a lag, and suppose the lag is of little consequence to most users.
Brian 

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Mgr. Michaela Dlhá
NVDA 2022 certified expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
Web: https://technologiebezzraku.sk
Ikrami <blindathlete6@...>
 

strangely enough, i went for microsoft's own headset so that i can be sure of it's excellent compatibility, as it should be the standard for others, however, i turns out that this is not the case at all. I submitted a feedback through the feedback hub app, and i hope they look into this issue in a future firmware headset. 
 

On 27 Dec 2022, at 9:10 PM, tim <z2004a1@...> wrote:



The only time I run into this is with cheep or out dated bluetooth products.

With all my namebrand products like bose, samsung and skullCandy never needed the work arounds needed..


On 12/25/2022 6:09 AM, Michaela Dlhá wrote:

Hi all,


i think it's a hardware specific problem. I use several heatsets connected via USB and have never had a problem.


Michaela


Dňa 25. 12. 2022 o 9:42 Brian's Mail list account via groups.io napísal(a):
I think because any audio device plugged into USB will be seen as another sound device you are at the mercy of the design and drivers. It seems some headphones are laggy, whiile others not.
Bluetooth makes a difference on my phone, ie Apple phone, apple headset, no problem, third party Bluetooth speaker, one sees a lag, and suppose the lag is of little consequence to most users.
Brian 

-- 
Mgr. Michaela Dlhá
NVDA 2022 certified expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
Web: https://technologiebezzraku.sk
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