bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
I nuked my settings, and all is well now. I still have my add ons enabled, so this was a settings issue. I’m not happy about resetting, at least I believe my custom gestures were saved. This has probably been going on for a while.
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 12:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
Hi Sarah
Just to be sure, since I and other persons cannot reproduce:
1. did you test with add-on disabled?
2. did you test with an NVDA from scratch, e.g. by creating a portable NVDA without copying the configuration and reproducing your steps?
I'm not great about following my own advice in this regard as assiduously as I should, but the more complex the software, and the more infrequent the tweaking, the more important a record this is to have. I couldn't possibly remember all of the tweaks I've made over the years to certain programs, and I've been in the same unfortunate situation you are now due to sporadic or absent record keeping.
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Yeah, I keep forgetting I not only have a brain disorder, but I forget to write things down per advice of my doctors and friends and mentors. So, it’s a double strike against me in that case, I guess. Lol! I won’t say lesson learned as I’ll probably forget this in a matter of minutes.
Happy Thursday and thanks to all.
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
Another occasion where emphasizing that keeping a record, in a plain text file or similar, or the settings tweaks you make (and/or unmake) over time is a godsend when you have to do something like this.
I'm not great about following my own advice in this regard as assiduously as I should, but the more complex the software, and the more infrequent the tweaking, the more important a record this is to have. I couldn't possibly remember all of the tweaks I've made over the years to certain programs, and I've been in the same unfortunate situation you are now due to sporadic or absent record keeping.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
I'm not so sure. I have noticed this sometimes, but like you have not actually looked deeply into it. I wondered if it might be a cashing issue on windows which does not read the right data. Not knowing how those settings are stored its hard to know.
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
I don't recall on checking that box. My configuration is saved otherwise. I will have to keep an eye on this as if this is a me error, I will feel very stupid!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
Is this exclusive to this command, or does this happen regardless of what settings you change? This sounds to me like the box in general settings to save configuration on exit isn't checked.
On 11/29/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Can anyone reproduce this?
Bug
When nvda is restarted, the use insert key option becomes rechecked
even after the user unchecks it.
Steps
* Launch nvda
* Go to settings
* Go to keyboard
* Choose laptop (not sure if desktop will work the same
* Uncheck insert under the section where it lists 4 check boxes
for
nvda modifiers.
* Hit ok
* Restart nvda
Expected
Nvda should not recheck the box for the keys you unchecked
Actual
The box becomes rechecked upon restarting nvda
Windows 11 22H2 (x64) build 22621.819
Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)
Version: 2022.3.2
No not at all. If you go to settings and keyboard, the insert keys that you won’t want to use can be unchecked. In my case they were rechecked after restart of nvda. Uninstalling and deleting that folder actually helped.
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug: when unchecking the keys not to use as modifiers, they become rechecked upon restarting nvda.
I don't know if this is somehow related to what happened last evening,on my Hp Pavillion Windows10 Laptop which is a bit over 4 years old: So I powered on my Laptop just fine; I was able to use NVDA commands via the Caps-lock key just fine without issues, but about 5-10 minutes later, not only the NVDA command key didn't work, but the Tab, Escape or the Number1 key on the top number row! So I restarted the computer, and the above-mentioned keys worked great for about 5-10 minutes, after which no go! not even restarting NVDA! So I restarted the computer a 2nd time, and used it over an hour without issues! with all the expected keys working just fine!
So might this be related to what you're talking about in this thread?
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El 29 nov 2022, a la(s) 9:46 p.m., Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> escribió:
Can anyone reproduce this?
Bug
When nvda is restarted, the use insert key option becomes rechecked even after the user unchecks it.
Steps
1. Launch nvda
2. Go to settings
3. Go to keyboard
4. Choose laptop (not sure if desktop will work the same
5. Uncheck insert under the section where it lists 4 check boxes for nvda modifiers.
6. Hit ok
7. Restart nvda
Expected
Nvda should not recheck the box for the keys you unchecked
Actual
The box becomes rechecked upon restarting nvda
Windows 11 22H2 (x64) build 22621.819
Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)
Version: 2022.3.2