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21 - 27 of 27
Can I change NVDA key commands
Luke,
From all of your suggestions the more I
liked better was the "Keyboard and Gesture Management".
"Edit Key Commands and Touch Gestures" isn't bad either, yet too verbose and that's why this isn't my choice instead. And while we are on this, I'd like to suggest something. Itt would be nice to have a topic open for these suggestions. This topic would be active for a few days then after this someone would gather the most suitable ones and put them into a poll. What y'all think? Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more! |
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I wrote:
the more I liked better was the "Keyboard and Gesture Management".It should be "the one I liked better". Guess I need to pay more attention to what I'm writing LOL Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more! |
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Luke Davis
How about "Edit Keys and Gestures" then?
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2019, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
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Luke Davis
On Sun, 21 Jul 2019, Luke Davis wrote:
How about "Edit Keys and Gestures" then?I think I will retract this one. While I like the word "edit" for what the option is doing, it is possible for edit to be taken not in the context of altering the keys and gestures in question, but as some sort of control for working with "edit keys" or some such silliness. Perhaps: Change Keys and Gestures Modify Keys and Gestures Key and Gesture Manager I still find "Command Manager" or the like to be a little more opaque than just putting something in the name about keys and gestures, or keyboard and gestures. Luke |
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As I pointed out a few hours ago, input refers to not only keyboards, but also touch gestures, braille displays, and other possibilities. There are braille display hardware commands that are not really keyboard commands, nor can be described accurately as gestures (for example, whiz wheels on older Vispero (formerly Freedom Scientific) displays, scroll wheel on HumanWare BrailleNote Apex, touchscreen input on BrailleNote Touch family, cursor routing buttons, etc.). In case of BrailleNote Touch and Touch Plus (internally recognized as Brailliant BI/B), it is a special case of its own due to touch input surface - could be considered a keyboard, could be considered a gesture, and other endless possibilities. If DictationBridge add-on adds a possibility to define custom voice commands (or rather, ability to add text to be used to activate a command via voice), then using just keyboard and gestures won't make sense. At least calling it "manage commands" makes more sense than what we have now. It defines the purpose of that feature better, it denotes that keyboards and touchscreens are seen as commands by NVDA (or a piece of input gesture, for those looking at NVDA source code), and leaves room for capturing other input possibilities without changing things later (which does introduce visual and linguistic side effects). Having used all four forms of input (keyboard, braille, touch, voice; five if I count using a BrailleNote Touch Plus as a braille display with input done from the touch surface as a separate category of its own), I think it would be best to go for something that makes things clearer without making it more verbose, something that describes the idea without going into specifics. Regardless of which label gets chosen by the community, here is what I will do: 1. I will ask translators about the new label. 2. I will edit the NVDA source code accordingly, including adding clarifications here and there. 3. I will edit the user guide to mention the new label and add a clarification as to which input technology NVDA can understand. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 7:27 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I change NVDA key commands On Sun, 21 Jul 2019, Luke Davis wrote: How about "Edit Keys and Gestures" then?I think I will retract this one. While I like the word "edit" for what the option is doing, it is possible for edit to be taken not in the context of altering the keys and gestures in question, but as some sort of control for working with "edit keys" or some such silliness. Perhaps: Change Keys and Gestures Modify Keys and Gestures Key and Gesture Manager I still find "Command Manager" or the like to be a little more opaque than just putting something in the name about keys and gestures, or keyboard and gestures. Luke |
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Joseph and Luke,
Joseph wrote: I agree. "Manage Commands" sounds nice for me, and I guess now I'm sticking with this one :)At least calling it "manage commands" makes more sense than what we have now. It defines the purpose of that feature better, it denotes that keyboards and touchscreens are seen as commands by NVDA (or a piece of input gesture, for those looking at NVDA source code), and leaves room for capturing other input possibilities without changing things later (which does introduce visual and linguistic side effects). Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more! |
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Chris
Command Manager sounds better than manage commands
From: Marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 July 2019 07:32 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I change NVDA key commands
Joseph and Luke,
At least calling it "manage commands" makes more sense than what we havenow. It defines the purpose of that feature better, it denotes thatkeyboards and touchscreens are seen as commands by NVDA (or a piece of inputgesture, for those looking at NVDA source code), and leaves room forcapturing other input possibilities without changing things later (whichdoes introduce visual and linguistic side effects). I agree. "Manage Commands" sounds nice for me, and I guess now I'm sticking with this one :) AKA Starboy
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