character count countdown with edit box
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Don H
I come accross some web pages where there is a edit box that has a number of characters limitation. While typing in these edit boxes the character count is voiced. For example it will say 32 characters 500 remaining. Is there some setting in nvda to stop this character count announcement?
Thanks
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One work around for now would be to hit nvda plus s and type. If not, type it in note pad and then past, at least for now Take care all. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 6 Nov 2020, at 12:53, Don H wrote:
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CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
Hi all. You can also use the add-on Word Count. https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wordCount.en.html Regards.
Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías. Músico (pianista) y ayuda a usuarios ciegos y con discapacidad visual, con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.
Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.
De: Sarah k Alawami
One work around for now would be to hit nvda plus s and type. If not, type it in note pad and then past, at least for now Take care all. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 6 Nov 2020, at 12:53, Don H wrote:
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Gene
No. Just turn off speech, NVDA key s, type, then turn it on again. Press twice to turn it back on, once to turn it off.
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Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 2:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box I come accross some web pages where there is a edit box that has a number of characters limitation. While typing in these edit boxes the character count is voiced. For example it will say 32 characters 500 remaining. Is there some setting in nvda to stop this character count announcement? Thanks
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Could this be in any way related to whether you have the "dynamic content" setting on?
NVDA+N,P,S, then the "Object Presentation" pane, checkbox for Report dynamic content changes? (Default is ON/checked) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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David Goldfield
To add to Brian's message you can also press the NVDA key (usually
the insert key) along with the number 5 (on the row of numbers and
not on the numeric keypad) as a shortcut key to toggle dynamic
content changes on or off.
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David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/6/2020 6:33 PM, Brian Vogel
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Could this be in any way related to whether you have the "dynamic content" setting on?
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David,
Thanks for that, as I had not reviewed recent changes in the Commands Quick Reference, and would never have found this unless I had been specifically looking for something about Dynamic Content. It also appears there is a keyboard shortcut for opening settings directly to the object presentation pane, NVDA+CTRL+O There's always something "sneaking in" as new features appear! -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Don H
Changed the dynamic content setting to off and it made no
difference.
On 11/6/2020 5:33 PM, Brian Vogel
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Could this be in any way related to whether you have the "dynamic content" setting on?
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On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 06:58 PM, Don H wrote:
Changed the dynamic content setting to off and it made no difference.- Thanks for reporting back and sorry it didn't get you the result you'd like to have. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Gene
I've never seen the dynamic content setting affect what is read in browse mode.
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Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 5:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box Could this be in any way related to whether you have the "dynamic content" setting on? NVDA+N,P,S, then the "Object Presentation" pane, checkbox for Report dynamic content changes? (Default is ON/checked) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Sean Randall
I think this sort of announcement is triggered by ARIA alerts and I’m not aware of a way to stop NVDA reading those as a matter of course. Some websites really abuse alerts, perhaps with developers not understanding the purpose of the feature.
I’d love an addon that allowed you to mark specific web-page elements to alert or not as the user wanted on-the-fly, there are probably more sites who don’t use ARIA at all than overuse it, but both cases are frustrating. S.
From: Gene
Sent: 07 November 2020 1:21 22 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box
I've never seen the dynamic content setting affect what is read in browse
mode. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 5:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box Could this be in any way related to whether you have the "dynamic content" setting on? NVDA+N,P,S, then the "Object Presentation" pane, checkbox for Report dynamic content changes? (Default is ON/checked) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Gene
NVDA doesn't have a turn off aria alerts setting. it should. If a site is programmed incorrectly, aria speecch can be very disruptive.
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From: Sean Randall Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 10:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box I think this sort of announcement is triggered by ARIA alerts and I’m not aware of a way to stop NVDA reading those as a matter of course. Some websites really abuse alerts, perhaps with developers not understanding the purpose of the feature. I’d love an addon that allowed you to mark specific web-page elements to alert or not as the user wanted on-the-fly, there are probably more sites who don’t use ARIA at all than overuse it, but both cases are frustrating. S. From: Gene Sent: 07 November 2020 1:21 22 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box I've never seen the dynamic content setting affect what is read in browse mode. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 5:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box Could this be in any way related to whether you have the "dynamic content" setting on? NVDA+N,P,S, then the "Object Presentation" pane, checkbox for Report dynamic content changes? (Default is ON/checked) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Confidentiality Notice This message and any attachments are private and confidential and may be subject to legal privilege and copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not publish or copy it to anyone else. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software and then remove it from your system. Data Protection We comply with data protection legislation, including the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), and take the security and privacy of personal data very seriously. If you no longer wish to receive emails from us please forward this email (so we can see who it was sent to you by) to dpo@ncw.co.uk with your request, and we will review our information in line with your wishes. Disclaimer Although this email and attachments have been scanned for viruses, New College Worcester accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this communication.
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 11:42 AM, Gene wrote:
NVDA doesn't have a turn off aria alerts setting. it should.- And there does not, at least from my search results on ARIA and a couple of other search terms, appear to be a suggestion/feature request for this in GitHub. There's lots of stuff involving ARIA, going back a number of years, but nothing suggesting a toggle for ARIA alerts. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Gene
I may create a ticket. I'm a bit surprised that it has never been brought up. Maybe it doesn't affect that many users or those it affects who might submit one don't know what the problem is and so don't create a ticket.
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2020 11:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] character count countdown with edit box On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 11:42 AM, Gene wrote: NVDA doesn't have a turn off aria alerts setting. it should.- And there does not, at least from my search results on ARIA and a couple of other search terms, appear to be a suggestion/feature request for this in GitHub. There's lots of stuff involving ARIA, going back a number of years, but nothing suggesting a toggle for ARIA alerts. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 12:45 PM, Gene wrote:
many users or those it affects who might submit one don't know what the problem is and so don't create a ticket.- Which is often the case. And one that I hope, over time, with encouragement from the membership here, and leading by example, will change. I don't want to see the folks at NVAccess be flooded with repeat bug reports or feature requests, so not only does careful thought need to go into why you believe you have a bug and how you need to report it, or how to carefully word a feature request, but also one must search first to see if it doesn't already exist, in which case you'd just add a comment to the existing one. Bug reports are relatively rare, and you have to make sure you have the steps down such that the developers can reproduce the issue before filing one. But NVDA users are blessed by the fact that they do have a direct line to the developers via GitHub. That is an unbelievably valuable, and rare, asset and communication channel. It shouldn't be used frivolously (for lack of a better way of putting it right now) but nor should it be avoided when you can be giving valuable feedback not only for yourself but for the user community as a whole. I only wish such existed for most of the software I've ever used, but it doesn't. Microsoft has stepped somewhat closer with the Feedback Hub, but even that's at several levels of removal from the actual development teams. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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