do same as routing curser


Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi,
I have a radio programming program that I have to select the com port that
the radio is able to be accessed to.
With Jaws and NVDA, when I tab in the window, it only goes to enter and
cancel, but insert B reads com ports of which I can check, one of available
ports.
With Jaws, I can route Jaws to PC and find the port I want, and either do a
left mouse click with the number pad or I can at the point I'm on the port I
want, route PC to Jaws, either way will select the port with a check.
I cannot figure out how to do this with NVDA.
I do insert num 7 and it says review mode, and using insert minus or insert
5 I can move around to different windows, but the closest I get is where it
says
com select window, but the reading and arrow keys and tab only go to enter
and cancel.
If NVDA is able to do stuff like this, it isn't intuitive, or there needs to
better information on this.
I know lots of people for whom this is exactly why they don't use NVDA.
Thanks for any assistance with this.

Glenn


Gene
 

Probably using object navigation would work.  I did a tutorial on object navigation.  Brian is hosting it at this link:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HZ7oqhtmwWXGVvAivYL_0pi9AcHc3WjZ

I'll describe what has a good chance of working but depending on how you use your computer, you may find it well worth your while to learn how to use object navigation.

For now, be in object navigation mode, issue the command numpad insert numpad 1 until you hear no previous navigation mode, or something similar.
Then try moving with numpad insert numpad 4 to move back by object and numpad insert numpad 6 to move forward.  You have a good chance of finding what you want that way.  When you are on the item you want to activate, use the command numpad insert numpad enter. Numpad enter is the long key farthest down on the right most column of the numpad.

I am giving desktop keyboard commands.  I don't know the laptop commands.

Gene

On 5/31/2022 1:16 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi,
I have a radio programming program that I have to select the com port that 
the radio is able to be accessed to.
With Jaws and NVDA, when I tab in the window, it only goes to enter and 
cancel, but insert B reads com ports of which I can check, one of available 
ports.
With Jaws, I can route Jaws to PC and find the port I want, and either do a 
left mouse click with the number pad or I can at the point I'm on the port I 
want, route PC to Jaws, either way will select the port with a check.
I cannot figure out how to do this with NVDA.
I do insert num 7 and it says review mode, and using insert minus or insert 
5 I can move around to different windows, but the closest I get is where it 
says
com select window, but the reading and arrow keys and tab only go to enter 
and cancel.
If NVDA is able to do stuff like this, it isn't intuitive, or there needs to 
better information on this.
I know lots of people for whom this is exactly why they don't use NVDA.
Thanks for any assistance with this.

Glenn 








Chris Smart
 

The action is similar but the nomenclature is different, as with any
application.

Try NVDA+Numpad Slash to move the mouse pointer to the current navigator
object. Then try Numpad Slash on its own to emulate a left mouse click.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: May 31, 2022 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] do same as routing curser

Hi,
I have a radio programming program that I have to select the com port that
the radio is able to be accessed to.
With Jaws and NVDA, when I tab in the window, it only goes to enter and
cancel, but insert B reads com ports of which I can check, one of available
ports.
With Jaws, I can route Jaws to PC and find the port I want, and either do a
left mouse click with the number pad or I can at the point I'm on the port I
want, route PC to Jaws, either way will select the port with a check.
I cannot figure out how to do this with NVDA.
I do insert num 7 and it says review mode, and using insert minus or insert
5 I can move around to different windows, but the closest I get is where it
says com select window, but the reading and arrow keys and tab only go to
enter and cancel.
If NVDA is able to do stuff like this, it isn't intuitive, or there needs to
better information on this.
I know lots of people for whom this is exactly why they don't use NVDA.
Thanks for any assistance with this.

Glenn


Chris Smart
 

Glenn, perhaps this article will help you transition.

https://gttprogram.blog/2018/12/20/switching-from-jaws-to-nvda-nvaccess-nvda-community-wiki-%C2%B7-github/

 

But, the User Guide exists too, and easy to navigate and read.

 


Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Gene,
When I do insert 1 on the number pad, until it says no next object, the
arrow keys don't move off of the last tab item, either cancel or enter.
I think NVDA cannot do as much as Jaws.
Does NVDA have touch cursors?
Sometimes in some programs, I have to use that with Jaws.
I've put keyboard help on with NVDA and explored key combinations, and I
think I may have come across touch cursor, but maybe I'm remembering
something else.
Glenn


Gene
 

I don't know which arrow keys you are referring to.  You use numpad keys to move when you move in object navigation. 

JAWS has a touch cursor and object navigation which is the rough equivalent of object navigation.

If you work with my tutorial, you will learn commands for using object navigation and how to move among and into and out of objects.


Gene

On 5/31/2022 3:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi Gene,
When I do insert 1 on the number pad, until it says no next object, the 
arrow keys don't move off of the last tab item, either cancel or enter.
I think NVDA cannot do as much as Jaws.
Does NVDA have touch cursors?
Sometimes in some programs, I have to use that with Jaws.
I've put keyboard help on with NVDA and explored key combinations, and I 
think I may have come across touch cursor, but maybe I'm remembering 
something else.
Glenn