Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?
Sim Kah Yong
Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal, repeated 22 times".
NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.
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Jackie
NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive
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equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.
On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of --
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Sim Kah Yong
Thanks for that. I also confirm that NVDA will say "22 equal" when I type 22 equal signs on any document.
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What I encountered is different. In my email, JAWS NVDA and Narrator will say "graphic equal" (many times). I am using NVDA 2021.35 and Thunderbird91.9.0 (32-bit). I think it is a form of graphic showing many equal signs. Thanks.
On 22/5/2022 3:51 pm, Jackie wrote:
NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive
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Thanks for that. I also confirm that NVDA will say "22 equal" when I --
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Actually nvda dos have said option where it will only read I think 3 if the equals, but for the life of me I can't remember where in the setting is. I would just start poking around until it is found for now.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 12:31 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal, repeated 22 times". NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.
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It will, but not in all emails. I have heard this in groups.io emails where the equals signs are not rendered as how ever many they are.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 12:51 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals. On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote: Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request@... with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brightstarsweb.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com
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Luke Davis
Sarah k Alawami wrote:
It will, but not in all emails. I have heard this in groups.io emails where the equals signs are not rendered as how ever many they are.That's because they are not a line of equals signs. They are a line of equals signs, interspersed with hyphens. So dash equals dash equals etc. Probably your punctuation level is set not to say one or the other, so you think it's a line of just one of them. Most likely that's what's happening in the original case as well: equals signs along with another character that NVDA doesn't read. Confirm by reading that line character by character. Luke
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Bob Cavanaugh
I just got a similar email from Amazon, and having seen this thread,
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looked over it to see what it looked like. There are spaces between the equals signs, which is why NVDA reads it the way it does. I personally find those quite annoying.
On 5/22/22, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Sarah k Alawami wrote:It will, but not in all emails. I have heard this in groups.io emailsThat's because they are not a line of equals signs. They are a line of
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Hmm. Ok, I might try and filter that out in an outlook specific profile or
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something as yeah that looks awful!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 8:14 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Sarah k Alawami wrote: It will, but not in all emails. I have heard this in groups.io emailswhere the equals signs are not rendered as how ever many they are. That's because they are not a line of equals signs. They are a line of equals signs, interspersed with hyphens. So dash equals dash equals etc. Probably your punctuation level is set not to say one or the other, so you think it's a line of just one of them. Most likely that's what's happening in the original case as well: equals signs along with another character that NVDA doesn't read. Confirm by reading that line character by character. Luke
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Steve Nutt
Hi,
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JAWS has it, it's called Filter Repeated Characters, and is under Text Processing. As far as I can see, NVDA doesn't have it. All the best Steve
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: 22 May 2022 08:31 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal, repeated 22 times". NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.
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Steve Nutt
Which is quite bad, because what if you get the string 9= in a file, maybe for programming?
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It should say Equals repeats nine times. All the best Steve
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie Sent: 22 May 2022 08:51 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals. On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote: Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request@... with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brightstarsweb.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com
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You might want to maybe put that issue in as a github issue, or if you can code, make an add on if one does not exist.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Hi, JAWS has it, it's called Filter Repeated Characters, and is under Text Processing. As far as I can see, NVDA doesn't have it. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: 22 May 2022 08:31 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal, repeated 22 times". NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.
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I like 9 equals rather than equals repeats 9 times, but that's just me. It's faster verbiage IMHO.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Which is quite bad, because what if you get the string 9= in a file, maybe for programming? It should say Equals repeats nine times. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie Sent: 22 May 2022 08:51 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals. On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote: Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request@... with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brightstarsweb.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com
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Gene
It does have it. If it didn't, you would hear something like equal
repeated as many times as it appears on a line. Instead you hear
twenty equals, if there are twenty equals uninterrupted on a line.
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If your punctuation isn't set at a level where the sign is spoken, you will hear nothing. So with equal, if punctuation is set to none, you won't hear anything. With punctuation set to some or higher, you will hear the announcement. However, I know of no way to turn the feature off or on and I don't know if that matters. Gene
On 6/16/2022 10:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
You might want to maybe put that issue in as a github issue, or if you can code, make an add on if one does not exist. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Hi, JAWS has it, it's called Filter Repeated Characters, and is under Text Processing. As far as I can see, NVDA doesn't have it. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: 22 May 2022 08:31 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has? Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal, repeated 22 times". NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.
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Chris Mullins
Hi The answer to the question is yes, NVDA does have the feature that identifies repeating characters, it just delivers the information in a different way to Window Eyes.
Cheers Chris
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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 16 June 2022 16:25 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?
I like 9 equals rather than equals repeats 9 times, but that's just me. It's faster verbiage IMHO.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?
Which is quite bad, because what if you get the string 9= in a file, maybe for programming?
It should say Equals repeats nine times.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie Sent: 22 May 2022 08:51 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?
NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.
On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote: > Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string > of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read > "equal, equal, repeated 22 times". > > NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, > Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or > JAWS has such feature? Thank you. > > > > > > > >
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Ron Canazzi
Hi Gene,
It does have it for single character strings. I believe what they are asking is if there are multiple character repetitions whether that feature is active. Here's an example of what I mean. 9=9=9=9=9=9=9=9=9= NVDA doesn't have a setting for such strings as does JAWS sand Window-Eyes. On 6/16/2022 11:31 AM, Gene wrote:
It does have it. If it didn't, you would hear something like equal repeated as many times as it appears on a line. Instead you hear twenty equals, if there are twenty equals uninterrupted on a line. -- Signature: For a nation to admit it has done grievous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice; For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!
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Rui Fontes
Not only presents information differently... In NVDA you can not configure how many characters untill starting to announce x equals...
If I remember correctly, in Jaws you could configure that...
Rui Fontes
Às 16:35 de 16/06/2022, Chris Mullins
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I hear 9 equals 9 equals etc. sounds like it does have this to my ear. Is that not what you mean?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?
Hi Gene,
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My solution to this is to create default dictionary entries to handle common "separator line" repetitions and actually have NVDA say, "separator line." I don't care what, precisely, the chosen character sequence is.
Here is the regular expression I use for a "long" separator line of 3 or more characters in sequence. Additional characters could be added with the or (pipe) operator if you have someone who uses something else in combination with + or = or -, etc. (\+|-|\*){3,} and my replacement is "Separator line." For common short, 2-character separators, I use this regular expression: (-|\*|\+){2}\s+$ And that regular expression captures 2 characters that are hyphens, asterisks, or plus signs followed by any number of white space characters anchored by the end of the line. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. ~ Dorothy Nevill
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Oops, a typo in my first description. I am only looking for plus signs, hyphens, and asterisks, in any combination, repeated a minimum of 3 times. I did not include the equal sign. If one wished to, this is the regular expression one would use:
(\+|-|\*|\=){3,} -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. ~ Dorothy Nevill
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