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Eloquence and NVDA

Grant Metcalf
 

I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...
 

Rui Fontes
 

Hello! In private and to the group.


You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:

I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...
 

Sarah k Alawami
 

Search archives for ATGuys, short answer, yes.

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On 5 Jun 2020, at 15:22, Grant Metcalf wrote:

I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...
 

David Goldfield
 

Hi. Responding publicly as others may also be interested in this question.

The Eloquence voices from NVDA work well on the systems which I've used with it. I did not purchase the SAPI5 voices but instead purchased the Eloquence/Vocalizer addon from Code Factory, which is designed to exclusively work with NVDA. I am not familiar with a voice named Bryan.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/5/2020 6:22 PM, Grant Metcalf wrote:

I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...
 

Marquette, Ed
 

Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.

I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory, mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.

After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people), CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”

Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department and me amazed.  What kind of organization does that?

It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity.  I might have refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me about the integrity of the organization.

I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices.  In fact, when I use JAWS with Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

 

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Hello! In private and to the group.

 

You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:

I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.

Grant Metcalf

Email: the.gems@...

 

 




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Hareth
 

Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...> wrote:
Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...<mailto:the.gems@...>






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Socheat Muth
 

The Code Factory version of Eloquence has weird pronunciation in some words. It isn't worth 70 or something dollars IMO. And the Vocalizer voices that are bundled with eloquence lag as hell.

On 6/6/2020 9:32 PM, Hareth wrote:
Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...> wrote:
Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...<mailto:the.gems@...>






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Sarah k Alawami
 

If you want something similar google the ibm tts add on. You will need to supply your own ibm dll but I have an add on someone put together that someone bundled with the dll. I can give it if anyone is intrested , ti works with nvda 19.1 and higher. Do not have rate boost on as you will get weird results when switching devices.

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to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 19:22, Socheat Muth wrote:

The Code Factory version of Eloquence has weird pronunciation in some words. It isn't worth 70 or something dollars IMO. And the Vocalizer voices that are bundled with eloquence lag as hell.

On 6/6/2020 9:32 PM, Hareth wrote:

Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed ed.marquette@... wrote:

Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.

You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...the.gems@...

This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named
recipients above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
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Socheat Muth
 

No problem Sarah, I already had the driver. And I'd rather using it than the Code Factory one. Thanks for the offer though.

On 6/7/2020 9:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

If you want something similar google the ibm tts add on. You will need to supply your own ibm dll but I have an add on someone put together that someone bundled with the dll. I can give it if anyone is intrested , ti works with nvda 19.1 and higher. Do not have rate boost on as you will get weird results when switching devices.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 19:22, Socheat Muth wrote:

The Code Factory version of Eloquence has weird pronunciation in some words. It isn't worth 70 or something dollars IMO. And the Vocalizer voices that are bundled with eloquence lag as hell.

On 6/6/2020 9:32 PM, Hareth wrote:

Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed ed.marquette@... wrote:

Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.

You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...the.gems@...

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recipients above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by
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Thank you.

Gene
 

I believe there is another company making the voices available.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA



Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.

I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory, mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.

After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people), CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”

Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?

It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me about the integrity of the organization.

I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.









From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA





[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.





Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:



I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.



Grant Metcalf



Email: the.gems@...
















This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, my company also sells Vocalizer Expressive for NVDA and Eloquence for Windows (SAPI5).

Our Vocalizer product is different from the one from CodeFactory, despite using the same voices.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:52 de 09/06/2020, Gene escreveu:

I believe there is another company making the voices available.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA



Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.

I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory, mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.

After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people), CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”

Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department and me amazed.  What kind of organization does that?

It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity.  I might have refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me about the integrity of the organization.

I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices.  In fact, when I use JAWS with Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.









From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA





[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.





Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:



I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.



Grant Metcalf



Email: the.gems@...
















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Grant Metcalf
 

I was able to get help installing the NVDA and Eloquence on my Win10 PC created by David CM, although the version on the BHP website was corrupted. A subscriber and contributer to the list, Luke Davis, resolved all my issues. It seems to be working well so far.
Cordially yours, and
Listening for HIS shout!
Grant Metcalf
 

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:55 AM, Grant Metcalf wrote:
the version on the BHP website was corrupted.
No surprise there.  The so-called Blind Help Project mailing list was shut down on Groups.io because virtually every piece of software that was being discussed, and hosted by them, was cracked software.  Patently illegal, morally reprehensible, and in direct violation of Groups.io Terms of Service.

Theft is theft.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I did not know that Tiflotecnia sold a version of eloquence. Where do you get it?

Greg Wocher

On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Yes, my company also sells Vocalizer Expressive for NVDA and Eloquence for Windows (SAPI5).

Our Vocalizer product is different from the one from CodeFactory, despite using the same voices.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:52 de 09/06/2020, Gene escreveu:
I believe there is another company making the voices available.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA



Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.

I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory, mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.

After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people), CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”

Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?

It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me about the integrity of the organization.

I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.









From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA





[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.





Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:



I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.



Grant Metcalf



Email: the.gems@...
















This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.





Rui Fontes
 

From Code Factory, of course...

They are the Nuance resellers for our market.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 17:42 de 09/06/2020, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello,
I did not know that Tiflotecnia sold a version of eloquence. Where do you get it?

Greg Wocher


On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Yes, my company also sells Vocalizer Expressive for NVDA and Eloquence for Windows (SAPI5).

Our Vocalizer product is different from the one from CodeFactory, despite using the same voices.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:52 de 09/06/2020, Gene escreveu:
I believe there is another company making the voices available.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message----- From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA



Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.

I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory, mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.

After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people), CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”

Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?

It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me about the integrity of the organization.

I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.









From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA





[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.





Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:



I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.



Grant Metcalf



Email: the.gems@...
















This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.




Luke Davis
 

Given that my name has been dropped in this, I think it behooves me to explain.

In this particular case, Grant had a paid Eloquence license from Code Factory, which could not be activated on his Win 10 machine. AT Guys sent him to Code Factory for support, and repeated attempts to contact Code Factory failed to obtain any response or results.

I did not see any ethical issue with making some version of Eloquence work under such circumstances, since he already had a valid paid license that the vendor wouldn't help him use.

Luke

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, Grant Metcalf wrote:

I was able to get help installing the NVDA and Eloquence on my Win10 PC created by David CM, although the version on the BHP website was corrupted. A
subscriber and contributer to the list, Luke Davis, resolved all my issues. It seems to be working well so far.

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 05:28 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
I did not see any ethical issue with making some version of Eloquence work under such circumstances, since he already had a valid paid license that the vendor wouldn't help him use.
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Luke,

Unfortunately, though I get what you're saying, it just doesn't work that way.  It is up to the vendor, and the vendor alone, in consort with the purchaser to get something to work.  If the "some version" is hacked/cracked the law does not care, at all, that someone holds a valid license, as if they do they should be using a valid copy.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

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