help with firefox and NVDA


Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim


Sarah k Alawami
 

Try tab after you reach the address bar.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim


 

If it's a button can't you find it with the letter b or shift+b?

On 6/11/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Try tab after you reach the address bar.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim
Abedrabbo
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a
laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am
using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get
this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s
microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but
no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA
command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim












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Sarah k Alawami
 

Not in this case. You must use tab from the address bar, or f6 sometimes works. The same will be true in chrome as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 1:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

If it's a button can't you find it with the letter b or shift+b?

On 6/11/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Try tab after you reach the address bar.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim
Abedrabbo
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of
firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only
screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I
get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s
microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web
address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone
there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim













--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
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Gene
 

The reason is that you are not in a web page, you are in the address bar.  Therefore, you are not in browse mode and quick navigation commands won't work.  If you type a letter, you will remove the address from the address bar and the letter b will be there.  When you are on highlighted text and type something, the highlighted text is removed and replaced by what you have typed.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 3:50 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Not in this case.  You must use tab from the address bar, or f6 sometimes works.  The same will be true in chrome as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 1:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

If it's a button can't you find it with the letter b or shift+b?

On 6/11/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Try tab after you reach the address bar.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim 
Abedrabbo
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of 
firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only 
screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I 
get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s 
microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web 
address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone 
there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim














--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
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Gene
 

If tabbing or shift tabbing once or twice doesn't place you on the button, do you know how to use object navigation?  Be on the address bar and move by object to the left and right to see if you find the button.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 2:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim






.


Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

No, I do not know the object navigation command in such a situation.  I tried tab and shift tab and it did not help.


On Jun 11, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 If tabbing or shift tabbing once or twice doesn't place you on the button, do you know how to use object navigation?  Be on the address bar and move by object to the left and right to see if you find the button.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 2:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim






.


Gene
 

I'm giving desktop commands.  I don't know the laptop ones.

To move forward by object, the command is numpad insert numpad 6.  To move back by object, the command is numpad insert numpad 4.  Try moving a number of times in both directions.

If you find the button, use the command numpad insert numpad enter to see if you can activate it in that way.  Numpad enter is the long key on the right row of the numpad at the bottom of the numpad.  There are two long keys and enter is the bottom one.  Plus is the long key above it.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 4:48 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
No, I do not know the object navigation command in such a situation.  I tried tab and shift tab and it did not help.


On Jun 11, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 If tabbing or shift tabbing once or twice doesn't place you on the button, do you know how to use object navigation?  Be on the address bar and move by object to the left and right to see if you find the button.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 2:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim






.



Bob Cavanaugh
 

When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.

On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim






Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim







Gene
 

I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on, voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect what I described to work.  It is still something that may be of considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible and don't go beyond them.  You may come across programs where there is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim

















Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

No Gene, object navigation did not work. When I tried object navigation left and right, I got no objects. Bob’s instructions worked like a charm. Buthank you for trying, and thanks a bundle for showing me how to do object navigation.
Cheers,
Ibrahim


On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on, voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect what I described to work.  It is still something that may be of considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible and don't go beyond them.  You may come across programs where there is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim

















Gene
 

I just checked.  In the Brave and probably other Chrome-based browsers, what I said will work.  In Firefox, you first have to issue the command numpad insert numpad 8 to move up one level and you can then move as i described.  Since I don't know how you use a computer, it may be that you will seldom need to use object navigation, but I'm saying that what I described does work with one extra command in Firefox.

As I said, there are programs where it is necessary to use object navigation and I want those following the thread not tobe left with the impression that object navigation doesn't work in this instance.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:44 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
No Gene, object navigation did not work. When I tried object navigation left and right, I got no objects. Bob’s instructions worked like a charm. Buthank you for trying, and thanks a bundle for showing me how to do object navigation.
Cheers,
Ibrahim


On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on, voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect what I described to work.  It is still something that may be of considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible and don't go beyond them.  You may come across programs where there is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim


















Gene
 

I'll give those following this thread an example of the value of object navigation. 

I use UBlock Origin )(spelling) to block ads.  If you move by object in the address bar in Firefox, you will find a UBlock Origin button.  If you activate it, UBlock Origin will open a dialog with settings for the specific site you are on.  You don't see these options when you are working with the general add-on settings in the add-ons section of the program.

It may be that a lot of people, perhaps most, won't be interested in these options but this is an example of how, in some programs, you can't do certain things without object navigation and in some programs it is necessary to use it to use the program to a meaningful extent.

As I said, depending on how people use a computer, they may not need or want to use object navigation but I am pointing out its usefulness and importance because I suspect a lot of people don't know the potential of using it.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:06 PM, Gene wrote:
I just checked.  In the Brave and probably other Chrome-based browsers, what I said will work.  In Firefox, you first have to issue the command numpad insert numpad 8 to move up one level and you can then move as i described.  Since I don't know how you use a computer, it may be that you will seldom need to use object navigation, but I'm saying that what I described does work with one extra command in Firefox.

As I said, there are programs where it is necessary to use object navigation and I want those following the thread not tobe left with the impression that object navigation doesn't work in this instance.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:44 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
No Gene, object navigation did not work. When I tried object navigation left and right, I got no objects. Bob’s instructions worked like a charm. Buthank you for trying, and thanks a bundle for showing me how to do object navigation.
Cheers,
Ibrahim


On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on, voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect what I described to work.  It is still something that may be of considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible and don't go beyond them.  You may come across programs where there is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim



















Gene
 

I just found out that you don't have to use object navigation to see the UBlock Origin button.  Firefox is properly accessible so if you are on the address bar and tab to save to pocket, you can right arrow through buttons until you get to the UBlock Origin button, which you can navigate with the space bar.

Still, many people may benefit by knowing at least a little about object navigation.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:17 PM, Gene wrote:
I'll give those following this thread an example of the value of object navigation. 

I use UBlock Origin )(spelling) to block ads.  If you move by object in the address bar in Firefox, you will find a UBlock Origin button.  If you activate it, UBlock Origin will open a dialog with settings for the specific site you are on.  You don't see these options when you are working with the general add-on settings in the add-ons section of the program.

It may be that a lot of people, perhaps most, won't be interested in these options but this is an example of how, in some programs, you can't do certain things without object navigation and in some programs it is necessary to use it to use the program to a meaningful extent.

As I said, depending on how people use a computer, they may not need or want to use object navigation but I am pointing out its usefulness and importance because I suspect a lot of people don't know the potential of using it.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:06 PM, Gene wrote:
I just checked.  In the Brave and probably other Chrome-based browsers, what I said will work.  In Firefox, you first have to issue the command numpad insert numpad 8 to move up one level and you can then move as i described.  Since I don't know how you use a computer, it may be that you will seldom need to use object navigation, but I'm saying that what I described does work with one extra command in Firefox.

As I said, there are programs where it is necessary to use object navigation and I want those following the thread not tobe left with the impression that object navigation doesn't work in this instance.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:44 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
No Gene, object navigation did not work. When I tried object navigation left and right, I got no objects. Bob’s instructions worked like a charm. Buthank you for trying, and thanks a bundle for showing me how to do object navigation.
Cheers,
Ibrahim


On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on, voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect what I described to work.  It is still something that may be of considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible and don't go beyond them.  You may come across programs where there is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim




















Sandesh computer trainer HR
 

Hi
Recommend to use edge web WhatsApp. Use the browse mode while you are
reading the messages. While you are writing the messages you can shift
to focus mode with latest NVDA. And ubgrade latest whatsapp.

On 6/12/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just found out that you don't have to use object navigation to see the
UBlock Origin button. Firefox is properly accessible so if you are on
the address bar and tab to save to pocket, you can right arrow through
buttons until you get to the UBlock Origin button, which you can
navigate with the space bar.

Still, many people may benefit by knowing at least a little about object
navigation.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:17 PM, Gene wrote:
I'll give those following this thread an example of the value of
object navigation.

I use UBlock Origin )(spelling) to block ads. If you move by object
in the address bar in Firefox, you will find a UBlock Origin button.
If you activate it, UBlock Origin will open a dialog with settings for
the specific site you are on. You don't see these options when you
are working with the general add-on settings in the add-ons section of
the program.

It may be that a lot of people, perhaps most, won't be interested in
these options but this is an example of how, in some programs, you
can't do certain things without object navigation and in some programs
it is necessary to use it to use the program to a meaningful extent.

As I said, depending on how people use a computer, they may not need
or want to use object navigation but I am pointing out its usefulness
and importance because I suspect a lot of people don't know the
potential of using it.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:06 PM, Gene wrote:
I just checked. In the Brave and probably other Chrome-based
browsers, what I said will work. In Firefox, you first have to issue
the command numpad insert numpad 8 to move up one level and you can
then move as i described. Since I don't know how you use a computer,
it may be that you will seldom need to use object navigation, but I'm
saying that what I described does work with one extra command in
Firefox.

As I said, there are programs where it is necessary to use object
navigation and I want those following the thread not tobe left with
the impression that object navigation doesn't work in this instance.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:44 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
No Gene, object navigation did not work. When I tried object
navigation left and right, I got no objects. Bob’s instructions
worked like a charm. Buthank you for trying, and thanks a bundle for
showing me how to do object navigation.
Cheers,
Ibrahim


On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on,
voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect
what I described to work. It is still something that may be of
considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object
navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible
and don't go beyond them. You may come across programs where there
is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion
arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and
perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else
worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about
trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice,
and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From
there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block
button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo
<abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of
firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my
only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire
fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your
computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the
Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web
address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my
microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area
when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim















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Bob Cavanaugh
 

The instances I've had to use object navigation are few and far
between. I have, however, run into three new instances in the last
month, where focus mode needs to be forced on in order to properly
interact with elements. The only time I've had to use object
navigation in the last month was the auto complete form for the
student clearing house which I posted last week. I've tried it in a
couple other settings with not much success, but now that I know a
little more about it, I'll have to try it again in one of those. I've
also run into a situation where using the touchscreen on my computer
like you would on a phone has helped, I'm not sure if object
navigation would replace that functionality or not, that's what I need
to test.

On 6/11/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just found out that you don't have to use object navigation to see the
UBlock Origin button. Firefox is properly accessible so if you are on
the address bar and tab to save to pocket, you can right arrow through
buttons until you get to the UBlock Origin button, which you can
navigate with the space bar.

Still, many people may benefit by knowing at least a little about object
navigation.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:17 PM, Gene wrote:
I'll give those following this thread an example of the value of
object navigation.

I use UBlock Origin )(spelling) to block ads. If you move by object
in the address bar in Firefox, you will find a UBlock Origin button.
If you activate it, UBlock Origin will open a dialog with settings for
the specific site you are on. You don't see these options when you
are working with the general add-on settings in the add-ons section of
the program.

It may be that a lot of people, perhaps most, won't be interested in
these options but this is an example of how, in some programs, you
can't do certain things without object navigation and in some programs
it is necessary to use it to use the program to a meaningful extent.

As I said, depending on how people use a computer, they may not need
or want to use object navigation but I am pointing out its usefulness
and importance because I suspect a lot of people don't know the
potential of using it.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:06 PM, Gene wrote:
I just checked. In the Brave and probably other Chrome-based
browsers, what I said will work. In Firefox, you first have to issue
the command numpad insert numpad 8 to move up one level and you can
then move as i described. Since I don't know how you use a computer,
it may be that you will seldom need to use object navigation, but I'm
saying that what I described does work with one extra command in
Firefox.

As I said, there are programs where it is necessary to use object
navigation and I want those following the thread not tobe left with
the impression that object navigation doesn't work in this instance.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:44 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
No Gene, object navigation did not work. When I tried object
navigation left and right, I got no objects. Bob’s instructions
worked like a charm. Buthank you for trying, and thanks a bundle for
showing me how to do object navigation.
Cheers,
Ibrahim


On Jun 11, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 I can't test this because I don't have a page to test it on,
voice search with Google isn't available in Firefox, but I expect
what I described to work. It is still something that may be of
considerable benefit to know at least a small amount about object
navigation unless you use programs that are all properly accessible
and don't go beyond them. You may come across programs where there
is no other way to work with some aspects of the program.

I hope you will try what I suggested so that if such an occasion
arises, you may be able to do what you want without delay and
perhaps significant inconvenience.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 7:14 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else
worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about
trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice,
and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From
there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block
button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo
<abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of
firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my
only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire
fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your
computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the
Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web
address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my
microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area
when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim
















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Yes I do feel that Firefox needs to work on the accessibility of this section, as its not intuitive at all and its so easy to accidentally input something you do not really want to.
You almost need a kind of toolbar for this, or better still a proper menu for these options. Brian

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From: "Ibrahim Abedrabbo" <abedrabboibrahim@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA


Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim









Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you submitted a suggestion on Firefox's bug tracker? I hear they are ok with fixing issues like this.  I hardly use FF now a days. Have it just in case though.

 

Good luck.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

 

Yes I do feel that Firefox needs to work on the accessibility of this section, as its not intuitive at all and its so easy to accidentally input something you do not really want to.

You almost need a kind of toolbar for this, or better still a proper menu for these options. Brian

 

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From: "Ibrahim Abedrabbo" <abedrabboibrahim@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 1:14 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

 

 

> Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

> I truly appreciate it.

> Cheers,

> Ibrahim

> On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

>> When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about

>> trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and

>> you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there,

>> press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an

>> allow button.

>>> On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo

>>> <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

>>> 

>>> Hello folks,

>>> 

>>> I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of

>>> firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only

>>> screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

>>> 

>>> When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I

>>> get this message:

>>> 

>>> "Allow microphone

>>> To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s

>>> microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to

>>> “Allow.”

>>> OK, GOT IT"

>>> 

>>> When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web

>>> address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone

>>> there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get

>>> such a message on firefox?

>>> 

>>> I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

>>> 

>>> Regards,

>>> 

>>> Ibrahim

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

>