Locked how to remove the descriptions of each element in nvda without adding them to the dictionary:
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Object Presentation Settings are worth playing with if you want to change how verbose NVDA is about various elements.
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Gene
I think you mean document formatting.
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Gene On 11/17/2022 10:05 AM, Brian Vogel
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No, I didn't, but there are things there that would apply, too. I don't know of any screen reader that doesn't allow "the degree of hand-holding verbosity" to be changed. I seem to recall that JAWS had three pre-set levels, each of which could be further tweaked, but I don't think NVDA has the same. But there is a bare minimum you can strip down to if there is to be any hope of having a clue as to what you're dealing with if you can't see what you're dealing with. -- It used to be understood that if you published and profited from a mass media platform you should also be responsible for its content. That idea is nowadays considered quaintly archaic. There is no real accountability, and almost limitless ability to post any kind of ridiculous and scurrilous nonsense. God help us. ~ Ross Goldbaum, Letter to the New York Times, Regulating Media: It’s Now Seen as a Quaint Idea, November 13, 2022 |
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Gene
As I recall, the JAWS levels are for verbosity within JAWS such as
having no or short messages for various things such as copy and
paste messages.
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I don't recall, not having used JAWS to any extent for a long time, how you adjust other verbosity. Gene On 11/17/2022 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote: Gene, |
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Gene
Also, object navigation can change what you are told about certain
things such as if you hear the position of something in a Windows
list, as in File Explorer, but the verbosity the person asking about
is treated, if it is, in document formatting.
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Gene On 11/17/2022 11:51 AM, Gene wrote:
As I recall, the JAWS levels are for verbosity within JAWS such as having no or short messages for various things such as copy and paste messages. |
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:56 PM, Gene wrote:
but the verbosity the person asking about is treated, if it is, in document formatting.- I agree, and Document Formatting settings give an awfully fine granularity of control. Screen readers are, by nature, insanely complex pieces of software with tons of settings that many users never touch. What's announced, when, and why, is always controllable to some extent. It's just that many never adjust these things. Document Formatting settings have, however, been discussed on many occasions in this group. -- It used to be understood that if you published and profited from a mass media platform you should also be responsible for its content. That idea is nowadays considered quaintly archaic. There is no real accountability, and almost limitless ability to post any kind of ridiculous and scurrilous nonsense. God help us. ~ Ross Goldbaum, Letter to the New York Times, Regulating Media: It’s Now Seen as a Quaint Idea, November 13, 2022 |
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what i am mentioning does not come in those configurations, first read my message completely so you can understand.
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that's right, I mean the document format, I want 0 descriptions in the document formats, and adding these words to the dictionary is not a good idea because it conflicts with words that anyone could type
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The problem is, what you want is not practical except if you're doing something like a Read All.
When traversing or editing most documents you'd nave no idea whatsoever where you are or what you're dealing with if what you want to eliminate is not announced. I can't imagine not wanting to know if I've encountered a table, or a button, or if it's a dropdown box type button, whether it's expanded or collapsed. You seem to want a sort of "read all, slowly, in browse mode," or maybe focus mode, I'm not really sure. This is an incredibly idiosyncratic request, and not something "that would work" for the majority of the user base. You can take out everything in Document Formatting and what's left is what you get. If that's not satisfactory, then you need to do a feature request on GitHub, and be very, very precise in describing what you want, when, and how you think it could be controlled. I have read your message and it is not fleshed out at all well. Certainly not well enough for it to be apparent to me what it is you want. -- It used to be understood that if you published and profited from a mass media platform you should also be responsible for its content. That idea is nowadays considered quaintly archaic. There is no real accountability, and almost limitless ability to post any kind of ridiculous and scurrilous nonsense. God help us. ~ Ross Goldbaum, Letter to the New York Times, Regulating Media: It’s Now Seen as a Quaint Idea, November 13, 2022 |
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This topic is now locked. Any replies related to this should be made on topic: How can I remove all descriptions that define the format of a document in NVDA?
I'll probably end up merging them later. -- It used to be understood that if you published and profited from a mass media platform you should also be responsible for its content. That idea is nowadays considered quaintly archaic. There is no real accountability, and almost limitless ability to post any kind of ridiculous and scurrilous nonsense. God help us. ~ Ross Goldbaum, Letter to the New York Times, Regulating Media: It’s Now Seen as a Quaint Idea, November 13, 2022 |
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