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IBM TTS not compatible with latest release

Chad Fenton
 

I noticed the IBM TTS voice synthesizer add-on is not compatible with the latest release. Hopefully that will be corrected as well.

 

Regards,

 

Chad

 

Brian Vogel
 

The IBM TTS Driver add-on is definitely compatible with NVDA 2023.1, at least the version resident on the NVDA Add-Ons Directory.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

Chad Fenton
 

My bad. The driver updater just caught it and it’s downloaded and working perfectly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IBM TTS not compatible with latest release

 

The IBM TTS Driver add-on is definitely compatible with NVDA 2023.1, at least the version resident on the NVDA Add-Ons Directory.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

Shawn
 

I got mine from the Spanish site.

Shawn Klein

On 3/27/2023 10:08 AM, Chad Fenton wrote:

I noticed the IBM TTS voice synthesizer add-on is not compatible with the latest release. Hopefully that will be corrected as well.

 

Regards,

 

Chad

 

Roger Stewart
 

Correct--IBM TTS doesn't work and editing manifest.ini doesn't fix the problem. The add on needs to be fixed by the author of this add on.
Roger





On 3/27/2023 10:08 AM, Chad Fenton wrote:

I noticed the IBM TTS voice synthesizer add-on is not compatible with the latest release. Hopefully that will be corrected as well.

 

Regards,

 

Chad

 


Roger Stewart
 

I just tried installing the latest driver. It did appear to install with no errors, but when I restarted NVDA, it switched to One Core voices and when I  look at the list of installed synths, IBM TTS is just no longer there!  What's going on here? If you wish, would probably to reply to me directly off list.
Roger








On 3/27/2023 10:41 AM, Chad Fenton wrote:

My bad. The driver updater just caught it and it’s downloaded and working perfectly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IBM TTS not compatible with latest release

 

The IBM TTS Driver add-on is definitely compatible with NVDA 2023.1, at least the version resident on the NVDA Add-Ons Directory.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881


Chad Fenton
 

Uninstall the driver you installed, and go to the following link:

 

https://blindhelp.net/software/ibmtts

 

Be sure you install the driver with libraries included. The first file is just the driver. It should work then.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IBM TTS not compatible with latest release

 

I just tried installing the latest driver. It did appear to install with no errors, but when I restarted NVDA, it switched to One Core voices and when I  look at the list of installed synths, IBM TTS is just no longer there!  What's going on here? If you wish, would probably to reply to me directly off list.

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/27/2023 10:41 AM, Chad Fenton wrote:

My bad. The driver updater just caught it and it’s downloaded and working perfectly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IBM TTS not compatible with latest release

 

The IBM TTS Driver add-on is definitely compatible with NVDA 2023.1, at least the version resident on the NVDA Add-Ons Directory.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

 

Nermin
 

Hi Roger,


the driver is there but the synthesizer files get deleted, since sharing that is, strictly speaking, illegal.


You will need to find a source that has the voices and copy that into the addon.
If you bought the voices, just wait for an updated release.
Any more hints on this, just drop me a line.

Nermin

Roger Stewart
 

Well, I must have the voices around here somewhere as it used to work until I installed that add on which you say is just driver only.  Where are the voices stored and exactly what files do I need to copy in to get it going again.  I have several working copies of NVDA as portable versions and IBM TTS works just fine on these so the voices are obviously in there. I checked through all the files and folders and I find nothing called voices at all.

Roger

On 3/27/2023 12:58 PM, Nermin via groups.io wrote:
Hi Roger,


the driver is there but the synthesizer files get deleted, since sharing that is, strictly speaking, illegal.


You will need to find a source that has the voices and copy that into the addon.
If you bought the voices, just wait for an updated release.
Any more hints on this, just drop me a line.

Nermin




Roger Stewart
 

Well, someone on the list sent me a link to get an add on packaged with voices and it is now working. However, I still would like to know what files I need to copy to make this work if I just have the driver add on as this problem seems to come around about once a year.

Thanks
Roger

On 3/27/2023 12:58 PM, Nermin via groups.io wrote:
Hi Roger,


the driver is there but the synthesizer files get deleted, since sharing that is, strictly speaking, illegal.


You will need to find a source that has the voices and copy that into the addon.
If you bought the voices, just wait for an updated release.
Any more hints on this, just drop me a line.

Nermin




Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I can't find the add-on under discussion on the Community add-ons website, which I accessed through the "Get add-ons" button in "Manage add-ons".  I want to get it, but I think I might be looking in the wrong place.  I have a SAPI 4 version that came bundled with an earlier version of OpenBook, but I don't know if it will be compatible with the new version of NVDA.  It's listed in the "Select Synthesizer" dialog as "SAPI 4", and it's the only SAPI 4 synthesizer I have.  I don't want to do anything illegal.
--
Louise
Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2604).
NVDA 2022.4.

Michael Hunsaker
 

Typically install location is in Program Files (x86) > ViaVoice TTS  (or Eloquence TTS)

Gene
 

I don't know if it is technically illegal but I think if IBM had been worried about it, they would have restricted the synthesizer to only work with the program it was used in decades ago.  It wasn't restricted in Home Page reader, nor in Openbook, nor in Window-eyes, when Window-eyes used the synthesizer.

And yes, since it is a SAPI voice, if it works in one version of NVDA, it will work in another.

Gene

On 3/27/2023 2:07 PM, Louise Pfau wrote:

Hi.  I can't find the add-on under discussion on the Community add-ons website, which I accessed through the "Get add-ons" button in "Manage add-ons".  I want to get it, but I think I might be looking in the wrong place.  I have a SAPI 4 version that came bundled with an earlier version of OpenBook, but I don't know if it will be compatible with the new version of NVDA.  It's listed in the "Select Synthesizer" dialog as "SAPI 4", and it's the only SAPI 4 synthesizer I have.  I don't want to do anything illegal.
--
Louise
Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2604).
NVDA 2022.4.

Howard Traxler
 

I thought we were forbidden to mention IBM TTS because someone thinks it's not legal.  However, the creator and distributor say that it is legal.  I'm just a bit confused.

Howard

On 3/27/2023 1:33 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
Well, I must have the voices around here somewhere as it used to work until I installed that add on which you say is just driver only. Where are the voices stored and exactly what files do I need to copy in to get it going again.  I have several working copies of NVDA as portable versions and IBM TTS works just fine on these so the voices are obviously in there. I checked through all the files and folders and I find nothing called voices at all.

Roger









On 3/27/2023 12:58 PM, Nermin via groups.io wrote:
Hi Roger,


the driver is there but the synthesizer files get deleted, since sharing that is, strictly speaking, illegal.


You will need to find a source that has the voices and copy that into the addon.
If you bought the voices, just wait for an updated release.
Any more hints on this, just drop me a line.

Nermin














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So dumb: Chewing the stick, not sucking the lollipop.

Curtis Delzer
 

I got it to work, just modify the manifest file for the nvda-add-on file.

and, it is legal, but it is not my contest.

That version of the Eloquence was out long before jfw had there's.

Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
 Rialto, CA
curtis@...
On 3/27/2023 1:10 PM, Gene wrote:

I don't know if it is technically illegal but I think if IBM had been worried about it, they would have restricted the synthesizer to only work with the program it was used in decades ago.  It wasn't restricted in Home Page reader, nor in Openbook, nor in Window-eyes, when Window-eyes used the synthesizer.

And yes, since it is a SAPI voice, if it works in one version of NVDA, it will work in another.

Gene

On 3/27/2023 2:07 PM, Louise Pfau wrote:
Hi.  I can't find the add-on under discussion on the Community add-ons website, which I accessed through the "Get add-ons" button in "Manage add-ons".  I want to get it, but I think I might be looking in the wrong place.  I have a SAPI 4 version that came bundled with an earlier version of OpenBook, but I don't know if it will be compatible with the new version of NVDA.  It's listed in the "Select Synthesizer" dialog as "SAPI 4", and it's the only SAPI 4 synthesizer I have.  I don't want to do anything illegal.
--
Louise
Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2604).
NVDA 2022.4.

Luke Davis
 

Michael Hunsaker wrote:

Typically install location is in Program Files (x86) > ViaVoice TTS  (or Eloquence TTS) _._,_._,_
Doesn't the add-on have, in its settings, a path field that points to the voices?
At least it did the last time I set it up for someone.

Luke

Luke Davis
 

Howard Traxler wrote:

I thought we were forbidden to mention IBM TTS because someone thinks it's not legal.  However, the creator and distributor say that it is legal.  I'm
There is nothing illegal about the IBM TTS add-on(s).

What is of questionable status, are the voices themselves. That is not so much a legal issue, as it is a potential (if incredibly unlikely) intellectual property law suit issue. In order to mitigate risk--mainly to ourselves from groups.io getting paranoid--we shouldn't provide links to places where you might obtain the voices.
But the add-on itself is and was open source, and is original work.

Here is what I personally consider the definitive post on the subject:
https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/message/20052

Luke

Brian Vogel
 

I will also add to this topic that the previously noted website, blindhelp.net, should really not be discussed in public, on-group, either.

They had already been banned from Groups.io because they traffic in hacked and cracked software, and brazenly so.  Because doing so violates Groups.io policy, and they're still doing this, reference to their website should not be made in public on the group.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

mattias
 

Why must all discutions here be so correct legal

Legal here

Legal there

Ban this ban that

All people cant buy all legal tts

Yes i’m thired about all this legal corectnes

Cant we be more tollerant here

I remember when the eloquence for example was banned

Legal corectnes

Skickades från E-post för Windows

 

Från: Brian Vogel
Skickat: den 28 mars 2023 02:03
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] IBM TTS not compatible with latest release

 

I will also add to this topic that the previously noted website, blindhelp.net, should really not be discussed in public, on-group, either.

They had already been banned from Groups.io because they traffic in hacked and cracked software, and brazenly so.  Because doing so violates Groups.io policy, and they're still doing this, reference to their website should not be made in public on the group.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

 

Brian Vogel
 

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 10:05 PM, mattias wrote:
Yes i’m thired about all this legal corectnes
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Then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.  

Legal correctness and moral correctness when it comes to intellectual property and licensing rights cannot be disentwined.  And it's not up for negotiation.  If you, or anyone else, finds it too difficult to honor the intellectual property rights of others, then please leave.

We, as group administration, are obligated to honor those rights and to remove all messages that do not do the same.  Yes, there exist places that are not at all concerned about this, but this group is not one of them.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

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