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From: "Michael Micallef at FITA" <michael.micallef@...>
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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 12:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] ibm via voice speech question


Dear nvda users,

Today I just downloaded the IBMTTS-v23.02.1.nvda-addon from the nvda add-ons page.
But when I tried to install it with the nvda v2023.4 it said that the ibm via voice it will not be listed in the list os synthesizers until I specify the ibm via voice directory files.
How I can do that? Some step by step how to do it are appreciate or at least from where I can get the necessary information.

Thank you


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IBM viavoice outloud tts is not supported because it is an old sapi4 synthesizer. If you like it but cannot pay for it, why not use the new espeak variants. here is a link to some new espeak voice variants that will make espeak ng sound similar to decTalk or eloquence along with a list of my own personal espeak ng settings below. . 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QkUSaiblMKtvAVrLTLF2lDXMSU5jSY0d/view?usp=sharing

to use the variants, due to a bug in espeak languages disappearing, go into:

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\synthDrivers\espeak-ng-data\voices\!v

Now hit control a, delete, and delete everything in there, it will ask if you want to continue, hit the continue button to complete the deletion. and now paste all of the variants into that folder with control v. Now, here are my espeak ng settings. 

voice, american english.
variant: glenn.
rate, 10.
rate boost on.
pitch 50
inflection 20.
volume 100.

On 3/31/23, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You repeatedly claim that variants and your settings will make E-Speak
sound like Eloquence or Dectalk,   That simply isn't true. I have no
objection to such variants and settings being suggested because you
think they make E-Speak sound better, and some people may want to use
them, but nothing will make e-speak sound like Dectalk or Eloquence
unless E-Speak were completely redesigned.

Gene

On 3/31/2023 6:23 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

IBM viavoice outloud tts is not supported because it is an old sapi4
synthesizer. If you like it but cannot pay for it, why not use the new
espeak variants. here is a link to some new espeak voice variants that
will make espeak ng sound similar to decTalk or eloquence along with a
list of my own personal espeak ng settings below. .

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QkUSaiblMKtvAVrLTLF2lDXMSU5jSY0d/view?usp=sharing

to use the variants, due to a bug in espeak languages disappearing, go
into:

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\synthDrivers\espeak-ng-data\voices\!v

Now hit control a, delete, and delete everything in there, it will ask
if you want to continue, hit the continue button to complete the
deletion. and now paste all of the variants into that folder with
control v. Now, here are my espeak ng settings.

voice, american english.
variant: glenn.
rate, 10.
rate boost on.
pitch 50
inflection 20.
volume 100.

I totally agree with you Jean.  I don't really like Espeek all that
much although I have used it on my iPhone for voice over.  However,
I'd never use it long term with NVDA.  In fact, I'm using jaws more
these days instead of NVDA.  Although I did use NVDA almost
exclusively for many years instead of jaws.

On 3/31/23, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You repeatedly claim that variants and your settings will make E-Speak
sound like Eloquence or Dectalk,   That simply isn't true. I have no
objection to such variants and settings being suggested because you
think they make E-Speak sound better, and some people may want to use
them, but nothing will make e-speak sound like Dectalk or Eloquence
unless E-Speak were completely redesigned.

Gene

On 3/31/2023 6:23 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

IBM viavoice outloud tts is not supported because it is an old sapi4
synthesizer. If you like it but cannot pay for it, why not use the new
espeak variants. here is a link to some new espeak voice variants that
will make espeak ng sound similar to decTalk or eloquence along with a
list of my own personal espeak ng settings below. .

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QkUSaiblMKtvAVrLTLF2lDXMSU5jSY0d/view?usp=sharing

to use the variants, due to a bug in espeak languages disappearing, go
into:

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\synthDrivers\espeak-ng-data\voices\!v

Now hit control a, delete, and delete everything in there, it will ask
if you want to continue, hit the continue button to complete the
deletion. and now paste all of the variants into that folder with
control v. Now, here are my espeak ng settings.

voice, american english.
variant: glenn.
rate, 10.
rate boost on.
pitch 50
inflection 20.
volume 100.

On 3/31/23, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Thank you.  but I want to restate or clarify what I'm saying.

I don't like E-Speak but that wasn't what I was discussing.  I'm saying
that people may want to try these variants and settings to see if they
like E-Speak more when used in these ways, but it doesn't sound more
like Dectalk or Eloquence.

Gene

On 3/31/2023 10:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

I totally agree with you Jean. I don't really like Espeek all that
much although I have used it on my iPhone for voice over. However,
I'd never use it long term with NVDA. In fact, I'm using jaws more
these days instead of NVDA. Although I did use NVDA almost
exclusively for many years instead of jaws.

On 3/31/23, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You repeatedly claim that variants and your settings will make E-Speak
sound like Eloquence or Dectalk,   That simply isn't true. I have no
objection to such variants and settings being suggested because you
think they make E-Speak sound better, and some people may want to use
them, but nothing will make e-speak sound like Dectalk or Eloquence
unless E-Speak were completely redesigned.

Gene

On 3/31/2023 6:23 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

IBM viavoice outloud tts is not supported because it is an old sapi4
synthesizer. If you like it but cannot pay for it, why not use the new
espeak variants. here is a link to some new espeak voice variants that
will make espeak ng sound similar to decTalk or eloquence along with a
list of my own personal espeak ng settings below. .

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QkUSaiblMKtvAVrLTLF2lDXMSU5jSY0d/view?usp=sharing

to use the variants, due to a bug in espeak languages disappearing, go
into:

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\synthDrivers\espeak-ng-data\voices\!v

Now hit control a, delete, and delete everything in there, it will ask
if you want to continue, hit the continue button to complete the
deletion. and now paste all of the variants into that folder with
control v. Now, here are my espeak ng settings.

voice, american english.
variant: glenn.
rate, 10.
rate boost on.
pitch 50
inflection 20.
volume 100.