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Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Tony Malykh
 

I highly suspect these windows are invisible - Dropbox wouldn't ship an update that annoys sighted users every hour with a useless window like this. That would be too egregious of a bug.

On 3/13/2019 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Is it possible for someone to take a screen shot when this is occurring and e-mail it to me (as they can't be attached here)?

Under Win10 you should be able to hit WinKey+PrtSc and have a PNG file automatically created in your Pictures library in a folder named ScreenShots.  Under Windows 7 I would think just PrtSc should work to capture the screen, but you'd then have to paste it into Paint or similar to save it.

There may be something in what's presented that might allow me to propose a workaround.  I'm just not willing to go so far as to install and start playing with DropBox on my own machine.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Tony Malykh
 

What's the version of your Dropbox? Maybe you're lucky and you have received an update?

On 3/12/2019 10:30 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi. I am not getting those annoying popups anymore.  I don't know why though As I've not changed any setting.  Cheers!

On 3/13/2019 10:51 AM, Annette Moore wrote:

Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette

On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.

On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes







-- 


Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


Brice Mijares
 

go into systray and disable it from starting at bootup. You'll find it under preferences.

On 3/13/2019 9:05 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, it is happening to me on Windows 7.  It is extremely frustrating because I can't dismiss these dialog boxes and they pop up while I am teaching and using ppt ...
Please, someone, tell me how to make them stop.  I can't uninstall dropbox as I use it all the time for manageing uploads and downloads from our CMS,
--Sile
On 3/13/2019 11:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I wonder if this happens on other versions of Windows than Windows 10.  I use Windows 7.  I don't have Drop Box start on boot up, but when I run Drop Box, I don't have this problem and if I let it run for considerable periods of time, I don't have the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Mine appears sometimes every 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes every hour, sometimes never throughout the day. I could be in my flight sim and get the pop ups. And that's when the trouble starts especially if I'm trying to land. I'm glad they are finally looking into this.

On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:58, Ron Canazzi wrote:

   Hi Group,




   While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?




   On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

     I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

     Gene
     ----- Original Message -----

     From: Annette Moore
     Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM
     To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
     Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


     Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

     Annette


     On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

       it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.


       On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

         Its annoying as hell.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





------------------------------------------------------------------------

         From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
         Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
         To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
         Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

         That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.





         From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
         Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
         To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
         Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups



         For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.



         George

         On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

           Good Morning:  I read this information a little late. However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

           Dave



           On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

             Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages? These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.



             Gene

             ----- Original Message -----

             From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

             Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

             To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

             Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups



             The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
             To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
             problem
              Brian

             bglists@...
             Sent via blueyonder.
             Please address personal E-mail to:-
             briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
             in the display name field.
             ----- Original Message -----
             From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
             To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
             Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
             Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


             Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
             run it when you want to use it.

             Gene
             ----- Original Message -----

             From: James Scholes
             Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
             To: nvda@groups.io
             Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


             Hi all,

             I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
             NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
             contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
             the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
             disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
             pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

             As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
             is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

             Regards,

             James Scholes
             https://twitter.com/JamesScholes









 

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:47 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Dropbox wouldn't ship an update that annoys sighted users every hour with a useless window like this.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.  This kind of crud does occur, and what you experience is generally an offshoot of what everyone's experiencing, but where those who see just dismiss it and go along with life, grumbling mightily about the stupidity of it all.

It's happened before, and will certainly happen again.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Gene
 

You can close the program in the system tray.  At the Drop Box icon, if you are working directly with the system tray, press enter to do the equivalent of a left click.  then up arrow once and press enter on exit.
 
If you are using the system tray dialog, I'm not sure if the procedure may differ from screen-reader to screen-reader. 
 
Try right clicking, then, if necessary, press enter to open the context menu.  then up arrow to exit and press enter.
 
If you want to open drop Box again, press enter on the desk icon.  You may get a window to take further actions.  Press enter and see if you are in a menu from which you can open the program.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Yes, it is happening to me on Windows 7.  It is extremely frustrating
because I can't dismiss these dialog boxes and they pop up while I am
teaching and using ppt ...


Please, someone, tell me how to make them stop.  I can't uninstall
dropbox as I use it all the time for manageing uploads and downloads
from our CMS,


--Sile


On 3/13/2019 11:54 AM, Gene wrote:
> I wonder if this happens on other versions of Windows than Windows 10.  I use Windows 7.  I don't have Drop Box start on boot up, but when I run Drop Box, I don't have this problem and if I let it run for considerable periods of time, I don't have the problem.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:19 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>
> Mine appears sometimes every 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes every hour, sometimes never throughout the day. I could be in my flight sim and get the pop ups. And that's when the trouble starts especially if I'm trying to land. I'm glad they are finally looking into this.
>
> On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:58, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>
>    Hi Group,
>
>
>
>
>    While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?
>
>
>
>
>    On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:
>
>      I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.
>
>      Gene
>      ----- Original Message -----
>
>      From: Annette Moore
>      Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM
>      To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>      Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>
>      Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?
>
>      Annette
>
>
>      On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
>
>        it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.
>
>
>        On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
>
>          Its annoying as hell.
>
>
>
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>                                                                           
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>          From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
>          Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
>          To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>          Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>          That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.
>
>
>
>
>
>          From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
>          Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
>          To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>          Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>
>
>          For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.
>
>
>
>          George
>
>          On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
>
>            Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.
>
>            Dave
>
>
>
>            On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
>
>              Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
>
>
>
>              Gene
>
>              ----- Original Message -----
>
>              From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>
>              Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
>
>              To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
>              Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>
>
>              The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
>              To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
>              problem
>               Brian
>
>              bglists@...
>              Sent via blueyonder.
>              Please address personal E-mail to:-
>              briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>              in the display name field.
>              ----- Original Message -----
>              From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
>              To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>              Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
>              Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>
>              Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
>              run it when you want to use it.
>
>              Gene
>              ----- Original Message -----
>
>              From: James Scholes
>              Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
>              To: nvda@groups.io
>              Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>
>
>              Hi all,
>
>              I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
>              NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
>              contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
>              the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
>              disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
>              pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.
>
>              As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
>              is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?
>
>              Regards,
>
>              James Scholes
>              https://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Roger Stewart
 

I've had a sighted friend watch the screen when I boot up. We hear nvda saying the dropbox window, but I can assure that there is nothing visible at all on the screen nor is there anything to alt tab to or away from Think it's just nvda picking up on dropbox starting in the system tray. Don't know why I've never heard this before until a few days ago. It only happens once at startup and then never again even when I get notifications that something has changed in my dropbox folders.
Roger









On 3/13/2019 11:47 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:

I highly suspect these windows are invisible - Dropbox wouldn't ship an update that annoys sighted users every hour with a useless window like this. That would be too egregious of a bug.

On 3/13/2019 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Is it possible for someone to take a screen shot when this is occurring and e-mail it to me (as they can't be attached here)?

Under Win10 you should be able to hit WinKey+PrtSc and have a PNG file automatically created in your Pictures library in a folder named ScreenShots.  Under Windows 7 I would think just PrtSc should work to capture the screen, but you'd then have to paste it into Paint or similar to save it.

There may be something in what's presented that might allow me to propose a workaround.  I'm just not willing to go so far as to install and start playing with DropBox on my own machine.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 



Richard Bartholomew
 

Try unchecking all notifications in the Dropbox preferences - this is how I have things and I've never seen this window - mind you, this is under Windows 10 and not 7!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 March 2019 16:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Yes, it is happening to me on Windows 7. It is extremely frustrating because I can't dismiss these dialog boxes and they pop up while I am teaching and using ppt ...


Please, someone, tell me how to make them stop. I can't uninstall dropbox as I use it all the time for manageing uploads and downloads from our CMS,


--Sile


On 3/13/2019 11:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I wonder if this happens on other versions of Windows than Windows 10. I use Windows 7. I don't have Drop Box start on boot up, but when I run Drop Box, I don't have this problem and if I let it run for considerable periods of time, I don't have the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Mine appears sometimes every 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes every hour, sometimes never throughout the day. I could be in my flight sim and get the pop ups. And that's when the trouble starts especially if I'm trying to land. I'm glad they are finally looking into this.

On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:58, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,




While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer. Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?




On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications. But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem. And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Annette Moore
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette


On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.


On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.




Sent from Mail for Windows 10






----------------------------------------------------------------------
--

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups



For me, this is not a notification. It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.



George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning: I read this information a little late. However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave



On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages? These are, presumably, shown in the system tray. I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running. I don't know if I have the latest version. But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available. I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version. Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups



The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly? You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92. Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field. The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears. In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating. Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes









Richard Bartholomew
 

It’s not across all Windows 10 as I’ve never seen the window.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 March 2019 15:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

I wonder if this happens on other versions of Windows than Windows 10.  I use Windows 7.  I don't have Drop Box start on boot up, but when I run Drop Box, I don't have this problem and if I let it run for considerable periods of time, I don't have the problem.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Mine appears sometimes every 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes every hour, sometimes never throughout the day. I could be in my flight sim and get the pop ups. And that's when the trouble starts especially if I'm trying to land. I'm glad they are finally looking into this.

On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:58, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

 

While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?

 

On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette

On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.

On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes






-- 
 
 
Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
 
-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


 

Which is why I never run any distracting software unless I need it.

Then again I only use dropbox for myself the time I used it for colaberation is over for now.

From time to time I use it for well various things, and I have managed to get 6gb of data from dropbox for nothing with referals.

Eventually I'd like to get the full 16 but its not on my top list right now.



On 14/03/2019 4:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Mine appears sometimes every 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes every hour, sometimes never throughout the day. I could be in my flight sim and get the pop ups. And that's when the trouble starts especially if I'm trying to land. I'm glad they are finally looking into this.

On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:58, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?


On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette

On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.

On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes







-- 


Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Lino Morales
 

Brian I’ll send you a screen shot when this happens here.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:23:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 
Is it possible for someone to take a screen shot when this is occurring and e-mail it to me (as they can't be attached here)?

Under Win10 you should be able to hit WinKey+PrtSc and have a PNG file automatically created in your Pictures library in a folder named ScreenShots.  Under Windows 7 I would think just PrtSc should work to capture the screen, but you'd then have to paste it into Paint or similar to save it.

There may be something in what's presented that might allow me to propose a workaround.  I'm just not willing to go so far as to install and start playing with DropBox on my own machine.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Brice Mijares
 

For me, it didn't matter if all program notifications were turned off. I had to go into drop box preferences and disable drop box from starting at boot up. I could be in Thunderbird reading a message and Dropbox would interfere, I'd have to hit escape to get out of the message and hit enter to finish reading the message.
If I hit the windows key and type Dropbox and hit enter so I could work with drop box, I'd be bothered later by drop box again.
Lenovo
Windows version: Windows 10Ver1809 (64-bit) build 17763.348


Curtis Delzer
 

sure it is suppose to happen when someone changes, updates or deletes a file, that's expected. But, the irritating part is that it is as though it wishes to remind you of the options that again available if you press enter.

over and over! :)


It appears though, after a reboot and it's running a couple days it goes away.

On 3/13/2019 5:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I suspect that these windows come up when something changes, someone adds a file or removes it that you are sharing folders with.  It may come up when the program is first run, but one person reported that the window comes up about every half hour, another person reported about every hour.  I doubt there is any general rule about how often they come up. 
 
The following may have a useful suggestion but my understanding of just what is occurring may not be correct.  But whatever is done about this unreadable window problem, my suggestion about how such information is displayed may be useful. 
 
Probably what is needed is the ability to turn such notifications completely off or alter it in some sort of accessibility setting so the information can be checked periodically by the blind person to see announcements about what has changed without them being read automatically.  I expect this can be done.  The information could be displayed in the system tray so a blind person can go to it and read it without a help balloon or a toast announcement being generated.  Information can change constantly if desired in the system tray without a screen-reader reading it if it just changes.  This should be an accessibility setting that can be turned on in preferences.  Should it be on by default when a screen-reader is detected?  I'll leave that for others to discuss. 
 
I think it is important for entities to develop a unified position on this feature and whether it should be on automatically when a screen-reader is detected.  In general, as things are, those who are complaining are just complaining about removing the wwindow.  But that doesn't address the underlying problem, making the information available and not intruding on screen-reader use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

H I didn’t know that. Well that’s good to know.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: March 12, 2019 9:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Hi Group,

 

While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?

 

On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette

On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.

On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes






-- 
 
 
Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
 
-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

-- 


Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


Tyler Wood
 

Not here. It's happening every few minutes and is beyond ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not paying for the extra storage.


There is a huge thread on twitter about this. It literally disrupts your work because it pops up out of nowhere.


On 2019-03-13 4:17 p.m., Curtis Delzer wrote:

sure it is suppose to happen when someone changes, updates or deletes a file, that's expected. But, the irritating part is that it is as though it wishes to remind you of the options that again available if you press enter.

over and over! :)


It appears though, after a reboot and it's running a couple days it goes away.

On 3/13/2019 5:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I suspect that these windows come up when something changes, someone adds a file or removes it that you are sharing folders with.  It may come up when the program is first run, but one person reported that the window comes up about every half hour, another person reported about every hour.  I doubt there is any general rule about how often they come up. 
 
The following may have a useful suggestion but my understanding of just what is occurring may not be correct.  But whatever is done about this unreadable window problem, my suggestion about how such information is displayed may be useful. 
 
Probably what is needed is the ability to turn such notifications completely off or alter it in some sort of accessibility setting so the information can be checked periodically by the blind person to see announcements about what has changed without them being read automatically.  I expect this can be done.  The information could be displayed in the system tray so a blind person can go to it and read it without a help balloon or a toast announcement being generated.  Information can change constantly if desired in the system tray without a screen-reader reading it if it just changes.  This should be an accessibility setting that can be turned on in preferences.  Should it be on by default when a screen-reader is detected?  I'll leave that for others to discuss. 
 
I think it is important for entities to develop a unified position on this feature and whether it should be on automatically when a screen-reader is detected.  In general, as things are, those who are complaining are just complaining about removing the wwindow.  But that doesn't address the underlying problem, making the information available and not intruding on screen-reader use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

H I didn’t know that. Well that’s good to know.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: March 12, 2019 9:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Hi Group,

 

While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?

 

On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette

On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.

On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes






-- 
 
 
Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
 
-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

-- 


Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


 

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:30 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
There is a huge thread on twitter about this.
I don't tweet, either.  Just curious if the issue is really limited to screen reader users or whether the sighted users are screaming bloody murder, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Sarah k Alawami
 

I know that someone in the twitter thread asked if this was a pure nvda issue, or if jfw and othr screen readers were having this issue. Let'ssee what happens from here.

Take care

On 13 Mar 2019, at 15:32, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:30 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
There is a huge thread on twitter about this.
I don't tweet, either.  Just curious if the issue is really limited to screen reader users or whether the sighted users are screaming bloody murder, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Lino Morales
 

Tyler. I’m getting the same horse poo you are man. This has been going on for about 3 weeks maybe? I was just in Skype 8 and bang! Their it was.If this crap keeps up I’ll just use One Drive. I have a free account like yourself.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:33:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

Not here. It's happening every few minutes and is beyond ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not paying for the extra storage.


There is a huge thread on twitter about this. It literally disrupts your work because it pops up out of nowhere.


On 2019-03-13 4:17 p.m., Curtis Delzer wrote:

sure it is suppose to happen when someone changes, updates or deletes a file, that's expected. But, the irritating part is that it is as though it wishes to remind you of the options that again available if you press enter.

over and over! :)


It appears though, after a reboot and it's running a couple days it goes away.

On 3/13/2019 5:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I suspect that these windows come up when something changes, someone adds a file or removes it that you are sharing folders with.  It may come up when the program is first run, but one person reported that the window comes up about every half hour, another person reported about every hour.  I doubt there is any general rule about how often they come up. 
 
The following may have a useful suggestion but my understanding of just what is occurring may not be correct.  But whatever is done about this unreadable window problem, my suggestion about how such information is displayed may be useful. 
 
Probably what is needed is the ability to turn such notifications completely off or alter it in some sort of accessibility setting so the information can be checked periodically by the blind person to see announcements about what has changed without them being read automatically.  I expect this can be done.  The information could be displayed in the system tray so a blind person can go to it and read it without a help balloon or a toast announcement being generated.  Information can change constantly if desired in the system tray without a screen-reader reading it if it just changes.  This should be an accessibility setting that can be turned on in preferences.  Should it be on by default when a screen-reader is detected?  I'll leave that for others to discuss. 
 
I think it is important for entities to develop a unified position on this feature and whether it should be on automatically when a screen-reader is detected.  In general, as things are, those who are complaining are just complaining about removing the wwindow.  But that doesn't address the underlying problem, making the information available and not intruding on screen-reader use.
 
Gene
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From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

H I didn’t know that. Well that’s good to know.

 

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From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: March 12, 2019 9:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Hi Group,

 

While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer.  Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?

 

On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications.  But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem.  And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

 

Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette

On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.

On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
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From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes






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Lino Morales
 

Its weird guys cause I don’t get this behavior when I run JAWS 2019. Only when NVDA is up. Now my wife on the other hand the other day got a notification from DB wanting her to update to the desktop version. Um she’s running said version and she also uses J 2019 full time.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:32:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:30 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
There is a huge thread on twitter about this.
I don't tweet, either.  Just curious if the issue is really limited to screen reader users or whether the sighted users are screaming bloody murder, too.
 
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Richard Bartholomew
 

Just to reiterate…I am *not* getting this window with either NVDA or JAWS 2019…and long may it stay that way as not having Dropbox running constantly semi-defeats its raison d’etre and would certainly lessen its usefulness for me!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 13 March 2019 22:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

I know that someone in the twitter thread asked if this was a pure nvda issue, or if jfw and othr screen readers were having this issue. Let'ssee what happens from here.

Take care

On 13 Mar 2019, at 15:32, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:30 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

There is a huge thread on twitter about this.

I don't tweet, either.  Just curious if the issue is really limited to screen reader users or whether the sighted users are screaming bloody murder, too.
 
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I would just like to confirm, based upon the screenshot I have received thus far, that the characterization of the DropBox pop-up as invisible appears to be entirely accurate.

I can literally see nothing on top of the underlying screen and the only thing DropBox related is its process icon in the system tray.  That would not typically cause what's been described.

If others wish to send me more samples, I'll keep analyzing same to see if anything, no pun intended, pops up.
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Kwork
 

Brian, as I hadn't really had my dropbox open much lately, I've kind of ignored this topic, but have now also had these popups being talked about. How would I generate a screenshot, and how would I get it to you? Thanks.

Travis

On 3/13/2019 4:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I would just like to confirm, based upon the screenshot I have received thus far, that the characterization of the DropBox pop-up as invisible appears to be entirely accurate.

I can literally see nothing on top of the underlying screen and the only thing DropBox related is its process icon in the system tray.  That would not typically cause what's been described.

If others wish to send me more samples, I'll keep analyzing same to see if anything, no pun intended, pops up.
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