LibreOffice Calc Global Commands Extension add-on
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Chris Mullins
Hi When using LibreOffice Calc and I want to copy cell contents to the clipboard, pressing Control+c causes NVDA to say “No Selection” even though the data is copied successfully. Is this because Libreoffice Calc accessibility is MSAA based rather than UIA? Does the Global Commands Extension add-on require a UIA notification event to trigger the voicing of “Copy”? Cheers Chris Sent from Mail for Windows
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Richard B. McDonald
Hi Chris!
I replied separately to your other email on the LO accessibility email list. About your below, what is the “Global Commands Extension?”
Thanks, Richard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] LibreOffice Calc Global Commands Extension add-on
Hi When using LibreOffice Calc and I want to copy cell contents to the clipboard, pressing Control+c causes NVDA to say “No Selection” even though the data is copied successfully. Is this because Libreoffice Calc accessibility is MSAA based rather than UIA? Does the Global Commands Extension add-on require a UIA notification event to trigger the voicing of “Copy”? Cheers Chris Sent from Mail for Windows
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Chris Mullins
Hi Richard The “Global Commands Extension” is an NVDA add-on (similar to a Jaws Script), which adds functionality to the screen reader, over and above that provided by the NVDA core. Add-ons are optional pieces of software providing additional functionality covring a large variety of applications, so you can choose the add-ons to tailor NVDA to suit your own computing preferences.
The “Global Commands Extension” adds a whole host of additional functionality, including audio feedback from clipboard related commands. Although the clipboard copy command works in terms of grabbing the cell contents from LO, the audio feedback it provides just says “No Selection”.
There is another NVDA add-on called “Clipspeak”, which does announce “Copied to clipboard” when used with LO but I think that the audio feedback is triggered by the fact that a clipboard related command has been issued, not it’s outcome.
Cheers Chris
From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 12 January 2022 22:35 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice Calc Global Commands Extension add-on
Hi Chris!
I replied separately to your other email on the LO accessibility email list. About your below, what is the “Global Commands Extension?”
Thanks, Richard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Hi When using LibreOffice Calc and I want to copy cell contents to the clipboard, pressing Control+c causes NVDA to say “No Selection” even though the data is copied successfully. Is this because Libreoffice Calc accessibility is MSAA based rather than UIA? Does the Global Commands Extension add-on require a UIA notification event to trigger the voicing of “Copy”? Cheers Chris Sent from Mail for Windows
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Gene
That is not correct using Clipspeak, if you mean that it says copied every
time control c is used. It doesn’t speak just because a command is
pressed.
Clipspeak usually gives correct information. At times, I’ve seen it
say no change when a change occurred but that’s not often and the information
and convenience of the add-on makes it very important, in my strong
opinion.
Here is a description from the add-on help about how it determines what
action has been taken. The same information is on the web page for the
add-on but I got it from the help in the add-on.
In order to prevent announcement in inappropriate situations, Clipspeak
performs checks on the control and the clipboard in order to make an informed
decision as to In whether such an announcement is necessary. Because of this,
Clipspeak's announcements may be inaccurate.
Gene
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From:
Chris
Mullins
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice Calc Global Commands Extension
add-on Hi Richard The “Global Commands Extension” is an NVDA add-on (similar to a Jaws Script), which adds functionality to the screen reader, over and above that provided by the NVDA core. Add-ons are optional pieces of software providing additional functionality covring a large variety of applications, so you can choose the add-ons to tailor NVDA to suit your own computing preferences.
The “Global Commands Extension” adds a whole host of additional functionality, including audio feedback from clipboard related commands. Although the clipboard copy command works in terms of grabbing the cell contents from LO, the audio feedback it provides just says “No Selection”.
There is another NVDA add-on called “Clipspeak”, which does announce “Copied to clipboard” when used with LO but I think that the audio feedback is triggered by the fact that a clipboard related command has been issued, not it’s outcome.
Cheers Chris From: Richard
B. McDonald
Hi Chris!
I replied separately to your other email on the LO accessibility email list. About your below, what is the “Global Commands Extension?”
Thanks, Richard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Hi When using LibreOffice Calc and I want to copy cell contents to the clipboard, pressing Control+c causes NVDA to say “No Selection” even though the data is copied successfully. Is this because Libreoffice Calc accessibility is MSAA based rather than UIA? Does the Global Commands Extension add-on require a UIA notification event to trigger the voicing of “Copy”? Cheers Chris Sent from Mail for Windows
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Richard B. McDonald
Thanks, Chris!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 6:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice Calc Global Commands Extension add-on
Hi Richard The “Global Commands Extension” is an NVDA add-on (similar to a Jaws Script), which adds functionality to the screen reader, over and above that provided by the NVDA core. Add-ons are optional pieces of software providing additional functionality covring a large variety of applications, so you can choose the add-ons to tailor NVDA to suit your own computing preferences.
The “Global Commands Extension” adds a whole host of additional functionality, including audio feedback from clipboard related commands. Although the clipboard copy command works in terms of grabbing the cell contents from LO, the audio feedback it provides just says “No Selection”.
There is another NVDA add-on called “Clipspeak”, which does announce “Copied to clipboard” when used with LO but I think that the audio feedback is triggered by the fact that a clipboard related command has been issued, not it’s outcome.
Cheers Chris From: Richard B. McDonald
Hi Chris!
I replied separately to your other email on the LO accessibility email list. About your below, what is the “Global Commands Extension?”
Thanks, Richard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Hi When using LibreOffice Calc and I want to copy cell contents to the clipboard, pressing Control+c causes NVDA to say “No Selection” even though the data is copied successfully. Is this because Libreoffice Calc accessibility is MSAA based rather than UIA? Does the Global Commands Extension add-on require a UIA notification event to trigger the voicing of “Copy”? Cheers Chris Sent from Mail for Windows
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