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lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon


Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

I found this great addon. Please consider adding it into the community addons page. It lets you read subtitles. It’s like intelligent realtime OCR for NVDA that uses the windows10 OCR engine. Try it out. Link is:

 

https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

Josh Kennedy

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


JM Casey
 

That’s very interesting. Have you tried it with a braille display? That’s how I’d like to /do read subtitles.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: August 17, 2020 3:21 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi,

I found this great addon. Please consider adding it into the community addons page. It lets you read subtitles. It’s like intelligent realtime OCR for NVDA that uses the windows10 OCR engine. Try it out. Link is:

 

https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

Josh Kennedy

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Eilana Benish
 

I have tried to install the add on But I received a message saying that installation fail .

In addition It would be wise to give a page with more details about the add ONS and supported languages and keyboard shortcuts.

 




‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 17 באוג׳ 2020 ב-22:28 מאת ‪JM Casey‬‏ <‪jmcasey@...‬‏>:‬

That’s very interesting. Have you tried it with a braille display? That’s how I’d like to /do read subtitles.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: August 17, 2020 3:21 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi,

I found this great addon. Please consider adding it into the community addons page. It lets you read subtitles. It’s like intelligent realtime OCR for NVDA that uses the windows10 OCR engine. Try it out. Link is:

 

https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

Josh Kennedy

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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אילנה בניש מורשה נגישות שירות 2200 | Eilana Benish, service Accessibility authorized (2200)

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📱 +972-50-7100367 | 📧 benish.ilana@...


Moty Azrad
 

Dear all,

 

I’ve installed successfully this new addon.

Eilana, try again to install it.

 

Good luck

 

Moti

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

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Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eilana Benish
Sent: 18 August, 2020 10:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

I have tried to install the add on But I received a message saying that installation fail .

In addition It would be wise to give a page with more details about the add ONS and supported languages and keyboard shortcuts.

 

 

 

 

‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 17 באוג׳ 2020 ב-22:28 מאת ‪JM Casey‏ <‪jmcasey@...‏>:

That’s very interesting. Have you tried it with a braille display? That’s how I’d like to /do read subtitles.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: August 17, 2020 3:21 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi,

I found this great addon. Please consider adding it into the community addons page. It lets you read subtitles. It’s like intelligent realtime OCR for NVDA that uses the windows10 OCR engine. Try it out. Link is:

 

https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

Josh Kennedy

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



--

 ובכבוד רב | Sincerely,

אילנה בניש מורשה נגישות שירות 2200 | Eilana Benish, service Accessibility authorized (2200)

ניהול פרויקטים – נגישות ושמישות אינטרנט וטכנולוגיות מידע  | Projects manager – Accessibility & usability on internet and ICT

📱 +972-50-7100367 | 📧 benish.ilana@...


Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation. My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is performed.

What is it

LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions, at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times, normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.

What can I do with it?

The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube, Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI files, and even live tV!

Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior results on certain images.

Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted text, unfortunately.

How do I use it?

To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll see how to fix this in the next section.

LION has the following settings:

1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from 0.1 second to 10 seconds.

2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are: current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen

3. Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode, those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from being scanned. Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.

Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above. Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are usually found in the lower third of the screen.

what's new

version 1.11

Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.

version 1.1

1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too

2. implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games. LION always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak. This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0 means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The default is 0.5.

version 1.0

initial version

Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?

My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates won't come too often. But if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Aravind R
 

add on link is not pasted boss.

On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
Hi,
Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation. My
question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in lion
settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is performed.

What is it
LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions, at a
certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not because I've
written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice acronym. Since it does OCR
of the same screen portion multiple times, normally it would read the same
text multiple times, which is not very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism
to skip speaking of the text if it seems similar to the previously
recognised text.
What can I do with it?
The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it works,
it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube, Netflix and
other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI files, and even live
tV!
Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works like
sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The quality won't
be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as large as possible, if
you have the option, and use a high resolution screen. The OCR engine it
uses is not perfect. It may have inferior results on certain images.
Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on the
screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted text,
unfortunately.
How do I use it?
To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will start
OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only when the text
changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its behaviour, go to the
NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For example, a video file might have
a logo in the upper left corner that gets read along with the subtitle, and
disrupts the experience. We'll see how to fix this in the next section.
LION has the following settings:
1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from 0.1
second to 10 seconds.
2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are: current
control, current window, navigator object, and full screen
3. Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode, those
four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from being scanned.
Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.
Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above. Just crop
10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear it. Actually, to
make the recognition faster and less resource intensive, you can crop like
70% from above, since subtitles are usually found in the lower third of the
screen.
what's new
version 1.11
Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.
version 1.1
1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too
2. implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games. LION
always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken
previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak. This
setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0 means all
texts are identical, practically rendering the addon unusable. 1 will read
all texts, even if they are the same. The default is 0.5.
version 1.0
initial version
Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?
My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an East
European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to an occidental
level. LION, and other blind specific software are just a hobby for me,
developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates won't come too often. But
if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





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nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....


Vaibhav Bhandari
 

Hi,
You can download the addon from the link given below-
https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:
add on link is not pasted boss.

On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
Hi,
Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation. My
question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in lion
settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is
performed.

What is it
LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions, at
a
certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not because
I've
written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice acronym. Since it does
OCR
of the same screen portion multiple times, normally it would read the
same
text multiple times, which is not very nice. So, I implemented a
mechanism
to skip speaking of the text if it seems similar to the previously
recognised text.
What can I do with it?
The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it
works,
it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube, Netflix and
other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI files, and even live
tV!
Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works like
sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The quality
won't
be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as large as possible, if
you have the option, and use a high resolution screen. The OCR engine it
uses is not perfect. It may have inferior results on certain images.
Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on the
screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted text,
unfortunately.
How do I use it?
To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will start
OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only when the
text
changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its behaviour, go to the
NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For example, a video file might
have
a logo in the upper left corner that gets read along with the subtitle,
and
disrupts the experience. We'll see how to fix this in the next section.
LION has the following settings:
1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from 0.1
second to 10 seconds.
2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are: current
control, current window, navigator object, and full screen
3. Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode, those
four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from being
scanned.
Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.
Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above. Just
crop
10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear it. Actually,
to
make the recognition faster and less resource intensive, you can crop
like
70% from above, since subtitles are usually found in the lower third of
the
screen.
what's new
version 1.11
Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.
version 1.1
1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too
2. implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.
LION
always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken
previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak. This
setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0 means all
texts are identical, practically rendering the addon unusable. 1 will
read
all texts, even if they are the same. The default is 0.5.
version 1.0
initial version
Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?
My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an East
European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to an
occidental
level. LION, and other blind specific software are just a hobby for me,
developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates won't come too often.
But
if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....



--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari


 

Hello everyone,
I took a look at this add-on, and I'm afraid this one isn't really compatible with recent NVDA releases and other issues were found (no wonder it is labeled a "beta" at this time). Specifically:
* OCR engine: it uses OCR engine found in Windows 10. Therefore unless you are using Windows 10, you won't be able to use this add-on at all (you can configure things, but the thing that enables this add-on is missing on older Windows releases).
* It uses code fragments that are no longer supported in newer NVDA dependencies (specifically, wxPython).
Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

Hi,
You can download the addon from the link given below- https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:
add on link is not pasted boss.

On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
Hi,
Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation.
My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in
lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is
performed.

What is it
LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions,
at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not
because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice
acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times,
normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not
very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text
if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.
What can I do with it?
The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it
works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube,
Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI
files, and even live tV!
Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works
like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The
quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as
large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution
screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior
results on certain images.
Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on
the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted
text, unfortunately.
How do I use it?
To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will
start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only
when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its
behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For
example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that
gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll
see how to fix this in the next section.
LION has the following settings:
1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from
0.1 second to 10 seconds.
2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are:
current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen 3.
Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode,
those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from
being scanned.
Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.
Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above.
Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear
it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource
intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are
usually found in the lower third of the screen.
what's new
version 1.11
Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.
version 1.1
1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too 2.
implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.
LION
always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken
previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak.
This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0
means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon
unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The
default is 0.5.
version 1.0
initial version
Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?
My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an
East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to
an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just
a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates
won't come too often.
But
if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....




--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari


Aravind R
 

Thank you. will try to use and give feed back.

On 19/08/2020, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I took a look at this add-on, and I'm afraid this one isn't really
compatible with recent NVDA releases and other issues were found (no wonder
it is labeled a "beta" at this time). Specifically:
* OCR engine: it uses OCR engine found in Windows 10. Therefore unless you
are using Windows 10, you won't be able to use this add-on at all (you can
configure things, but the thing that enables this add-on is missing on older
Windows releases).
* It uses code fragments that are no longer supported in newer NVDA
dependencies (specifically, wxPython).
Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav
Bhandari
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

Hi,
You can download the addon from the link given below-
https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:
add on link is not pasted boss.

On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
Hi,
Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation.
My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in
lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is
performed.

What is it
LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions,
at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not
because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice
acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times,
normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not
very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text
if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.
What can I do with it?
The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it
works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube,
Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI
files, and even live tV!
Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works
like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The
quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as
large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution
screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior
results on certain images.
Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on
the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted
text, unfortunately.
How do I use it?
To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will
start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only
when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its
behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For
example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that
gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll
see how to fix this in the next section.
LION has the following settings:
1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from
0.1 second to 10 seconds.
2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are:
current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen 3.
Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode,
those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from
being scanned.
Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.
Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above.
Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear
it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource
intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are
usually found in the lower third of the screen.
what's new
version 1.11
Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.
version 1.1
1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too 2.
implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.
LION
always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken
previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak.
This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0
means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon
unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The
default is 0.5.
version 1.0
initial version
Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?
My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an
East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to
an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just
a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates
won't come too often.
But
if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....




--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari







--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....


abdul muhamin
 

Hi, I’m using this addon on win10 with the latest NVDA, the best thing of this addon is to read the subtitles and on screen text automatically. If possible, please add this functionality to NVDA core, so that it can be used with Win10 ocr.

 

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hello everyone,

I took a look at this add-on, and I'm afraid this one isn't really compatible with recent NVDA releases and other issues were found (no wonder it is labeled a "beta" at this time). Specifically:

* OCR engine: it uses OCR engine found in Windows 10. Therefore unless you are using Windows 10, you won't be able to use this add-on at all (you can configure things, but the thing that enables this add-on is missing on older Windows releases).

* It uses code fragments that are no longer supported in newer NVDA dependencies (specifically, wxPython).

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:17 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hi,

You can download the addon from the link given below- https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:

> add on link is not pasted boss.

> On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation.

>> My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in

>> lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is

>> performed.

>> 

>> What is it

>> LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions,

>> at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not

>> because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice

>> acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times,

>> normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not

>> very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text

>> if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.

>> What can I do with it?

>> The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it

>> works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube,

>> Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI

>> files, and even live tV!

>> Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works

>> like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The

>> quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as

>> large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution

>> screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior

>> results on certain images.

>> Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on

>> the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted

>> text, unfortunately.

>> How do I use it?

>> To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will

>> start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only

>> when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its

>> behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For

>> example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that

>> gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll

>> see how to fix this in the next section.

>> LION has the following settings:

>> 1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from

>> 0.1 second to 10 seconds.

>> 2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are:

>> current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen 3.

>> Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode,

>> those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from

>> being scanned.

>> Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.

>> Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above.

>> Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear

>> it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource

>> intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are

>> usually found in the lower third of the screen.

>> what's new

>> version 1.11

>> Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.

>> version 1.1

>> 1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too 2.

>> implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.

>> LION

>> always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken

>> previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak.

>> This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0

>> means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon

>> unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The

>> default is 0.5.

>> version 1.0

>> initial version

>> Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?

>> My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an

>> East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to

>> an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just

>> a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates

>> won't come too often.

>> But

>> if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

>> 

>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> --

> --

> nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

> r. aravind,

> manager

> Department of sales

> bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

> mobile no: +91 9940369593,

> email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

> aravind.rajendran@....

>

 

 

--

Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari

 

 

 

 

 

 


abdul muhamin
 

Use it and share your experience, I’ve tried it while playing Mortal Kombat, and the results were satisfying

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Moty Azrad
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Dear all,

 

I’ve installed successfully this new addon.

Eilana, try again to install it.

 

Good luck

 

Moti

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eilana Benish
Sent: 18 August, 2020 10:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

I have tried to install the add on But I received a message saying that installation fail .

In addition It would be wise to give a page with more details about the add ONS and supported languages and keyboard shortcuts.

 

 

 

 

‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 17 באוג׳ 2020 ב-22:28 מאת ‪JM Casey‏ <‪jmcasey@...‏>:

That’s very interesting. Have you tried it with a braille display? That’s how I’d like to /do read subtitles.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: August 17, 2020 3:21 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi,

I found this great addon. Please consider adding it into the community addons page. It lets you read subtitles. It’s like intelligent realtime OCR for NVDA that uses the windows10 OCR engine. Try it out. Link is:

 

https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

Josh Kennedy

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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ניהול פרויקטים – נגישות ושמישות אינטרנט וטכנולוגיות מידע  | Projects manager – Accessibility & usability on internet and ICT

📱 +972-50-7100367 | 📧 benish.ilana@...

 


 

Hi,

Suffice to say that someone (not me) is researching this possibility at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi, I’m using this addon on win10 with the latest NVDA, the best thing of this addon is to read the subtitles and on screen text automatically. If possible, please add this functionality to NVDA core, so that it can be used with Win10 ocr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hello everyone,

I took a look at this add-on, and I'm afraid this one isn't really compatible with recent NVDA releases and other issues were found (no wonder it is labeled a "beta" at this time). Specifically:

* OCR engine: it uses OCR engine found in Windows 10. Therefore unless you are using Windows 10, you won't be able to use this add-on at all (you can configure things, but the thing that enables this add-on is missing on older Windows releases).

* It uses code fragments that are no longer supported in newer NVDA dependencies (specifically, wxPython).

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:17 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hi,

You can download the addon from the link given below- https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:

> add on link is not pasted boss.

> On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation.

>> My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in

>> lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is

>> performed.

>> 

>> What is it

>> LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions,

>> at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not

>> because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice

>> acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times,

>> normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not

>> very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text

>> if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.

>> What can I do with it?

>> The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it

>> works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube,

>> Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI

>> files, and even live tV!

>> Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works

>> like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The

>> quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as

>> large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution

>> screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior

>> results on certain images.

>> Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on

>> the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted

>> text, unfortunately.

>> How do I use it?

>> To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will

>> start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only

>> when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its

>> behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For

>> example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that

>> gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll

>> see how to fix this in the next section.

>> LION has the following settings:

>> 1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from

>> 0.1 second to 10 seconds.

>> 2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are:

>> current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen 3.

>> Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode,

>> those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from

>> being scanned.

>> Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.

>> Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above.

>> Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear

>> it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource

>> intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are

>> usually found in the lower third of the screen.

>> what's new

>> version 1.11

>> Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.

>> version 1.1

>> 1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too 2.

>> implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.

>> LION

>> always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken

>> previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak.

>> This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0

>> means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon

>> unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The

>> default is 0.5.

>> version 1.0

>> initial version

>> Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?

>> My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an

>> East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to

>> an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just

>> a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates

>> won't come too often.

>> But

>> if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

>> 

>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> --

> --

> nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

> r. aravind,

> manager

> Department of sales

> bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

> mobile no: +91 9940369593,

> email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

> aravind.rajendran@....

>

 

 

--

Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari

 

 

 

 

 

 


Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi, I will be very happy to see it in nvda.

It is very usefull to watch netflix and vídeo classes with subscription.

It would be fantastic to study idioms since we will be able to read subtitles in braile.

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Joseph Lee
Enviado:quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2020 14:09
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi,

Suffice to say that someone (not me) is researching this possibility at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi, I’m using this addon on win10 with the latest NVDA, the best thing of this addon is to read the subtitles and on screen text automatically. If possible, please add this functionality to NVDA core, so that it can be used with Win10 ocr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hello everyone,

I took a look at this add-on, and I'm afraid this one isn't really compatible with recent NVDA releases and other issues were found (no wonder it is labeled a "beta" at this time). Specifically:

* OCR engine: it uses OCR engine found in Windows 10. Therefore unless you are using Windows 10, you won't be able to use this add-on at all (you can configure things, but the thing that enables this add-on is missing on older Windows releases).

* It uses code fragments that are no longer supported in newer NVDA dependencies (specifically, wxPython).

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:17 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hi,

You can download the addon from the link given below- https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:

> add on link is not pasted boss.

> On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation.

>> My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in

>> lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is

>> performed.

>> 

>> What is it

>> LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions,

>> at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not

>> because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice

>> acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times,

>> normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not

>> very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text

>> if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.

>> What can I do with it?

>> The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it

>> works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube,

>> Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI

>> files, and even live tV!

>> Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works

>> like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The

>> quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as

>> large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution

>> screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior

>> results on certain images.

>> Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on

>> the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted

>> text, unfortunately.

>> How do I use it?

>> To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will

>> start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only

>> when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its

>> behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For

>> example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that

>> gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll

>> see how to fix this in the next section.

>> LION has the following settings:

>> 1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from

>> 0.1 second to 10 seconds.

>> 2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are:

>> current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen 3.

>> Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode,

>> those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from

>> being scanned.

>> Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.

>> Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above.

>> Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear

>> it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource

>> intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are

>> usually found in the lower third of the screen.

>> what's new

>> version 1.11

>> Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.

>> version 1.1

>> 1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too 2.

>> implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.

>> LION

>> always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken

>> previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak.

>> This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0

>> means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon

>> unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The

>> default is 0.5.

>> version 1.0

>> initial version

>> Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?

>> My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an

>> East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to

>> an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just

>> a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates

>> won't come too often.

>> But

>> if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

>> 

>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> --

> --

> nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

> r. aravind,

> manager

> Department of sales

> bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

> mobile no: +91 9940369593,

> email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

> aravind.rajendran@....

>

 

 

--

Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


abdul muhamin
 

I hope you will find the solution soon, try this addon, I’m bet you can do it more better then this

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi,

Suffice to say that someone (not me) is researching this possibility at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion universal subtitle reader and more NVDA addon

 

Hi, I’m using this addon on win10 with the latest NVDA, the best thing of this addon is to read the subtitles and on screen text automatically. If possible, please add this functionality to NVDA core, so that it can be used with Win10 ocr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hello everyone,

I took a look at this add-on, and I'm afraid this one isn't really compatible with recent NVDA releases and other issues were found (no wonder it is labeled a "beta" at this time). Specifically:

* OCR engine: it uses OCR engine found in Windows 10. Therefore unless you are using Windows 10, you won't be able to use this add-on at all (you can configure things, but the thing that enables this add-on is missing on older Windows releases).

* It uses code fragments that are no longer supported in newer NVDA dependencies (specifically, wxPython).

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:17 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] lion subtitle reader and more addon

 

Hi,

You can download the addon from the link given below- https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

 

On 8/19/20, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:

> add on link is not pasted boss.

> On 19/08/2020, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Here pasted below is the lion subtitle reader and more documentation.

>> My question though is, what is the very first combo box used for in

>> lion settings never mind I figured it out it changes how often OCR is

>> performed.

>> 

>> What is it

>> LION is an addon which does Automatic OCr of certain screen portions,

>> at a certain interval. Why do I say that it is intelligent? No, not

>> because I've written it, nor because the "i" makes for a nice

>> acronym. Since it does OCR of the same screen portion multiple times,

>> normally it would read the same text multiple times, which is not

>> very nice. So, I implemented a mechanism to skip speaking of the text

>> if it seems similar to the previously recognised text.

>> What can I do with it?

>> The main reason I wrote it was to read subtitles. Due to the way it

>> works, it can read any subtitles on the screen, including Youtube,

>> Netflix and other online video sites, subtitles embedded in AVI

>> files, and even live tV!

>> Make sure to set the video to full screen when using it, as it works

>> like sighted eyes do. It needs big text for better performance. The

>> quality won't be perfect, try to set the font of the subtitles as

>> large as possible, if you have the option, and use a high resolution

>> screen. The OCR engine it uses is not perfect. It may have inferior

>> results on certain images.

>> Other than that, It can be used to monitor any inaccessible text on

>> the screen, like video game menus. It won't tell you highlighted

>> text, unfortunately.

>> How do I use it?

>> To launch it with default options, just press NVDA+alt+l. LION will

>> start OCR of the whole screen at a 1 second interval, speaking only

>> when the text changes. Hopefully. :) If you want to customize its

>> behaviour, go to the NVDA Menu, Preferences, LION settings. For

>> example, a video file might have a logo in the upper left corner that

>> gets read along with the subtitle, and disrupts the experience. We'll

>> see how to fix this in the next section.

>> LION has the following settings:

>> 1. OCR interval: how often the program does OCR. Takes values from

>> 0.1 second to 10 seconds.

>> 2. OCR target: specifies the screen portion to OCR. Options are:

>> current control, current window, navigator object, and full screen 3.

>> Crop pixels from above, below, right, left. In full screen mode,

>> those four fields allow you to crop sections from the screen from

>> being scanned.

>> Those settings work only in full screen and current window modes.

>> Why is this setting useful? Let's remember the logo example above.

>> Just crop 10% or so from above to skip the logo, and you won't hear

>> it. Actually, to make the recognition faster and less resource

>> intensive, you can crop like 70% from above, since subtitles are

>> usually found in the lower third of the screen.

>> what's new

>> version 1.11

>> Fixed a bug, mainly observed in youtube fullscreen.

>> version 1.1

>> 1. the crop settings affect the current window mode, too 2.

>> implemented a similarity threshold setting, mainlly useful in games.

>> LION

>> always compares the current text with the one which has been spoken

>> previously. If it thinks the text hasn't changed, it doesn't speak.

>> This setting controls how aggressive LION is in comparing texts. 0

>> means all texts are identical, practically rendering the addon

>> unusable. 1 will read all texts, even if they are the same. The

>> default is 0.5.

>> version 1.0

>> initial version

>> Who wrote this, how often will I see updates?

>> My name is Stefan Moisei, a blind programmer trying to survive in an

>> East European country, Romania, who has a lot to catch up to get to

>> an occidental level. LION, and other blind specific software are just

>> a hobby for me, developed in my spare time. So, I'm afraid updates

>> won't come too often.

>> But

>> if you can code, this is NVDA, so the source is right there. :)

>> 

>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> --

> --

> nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

> r. aravind,

> manager

> Department of sales

> bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

> mobile no: +91 9940369593,

> email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

> aravind.rajendran@....

>

 

 

--

Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari