Lost the pound sign


 

Oops, that should have been SHIFT+Number Row 3.

When I'm in UK keyboard format I get the pounds sterling symbol and if I'm in US keyboard mode I get the number/hashtag/pound sign symbol.
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Chris Mullins
 

Hi

It’s not a physical layout it’s a logical one.  Try  pressing the Windows key+spacebar repeatedly to cycle around the available keyboard mappings.  NVDA will read out the different keyboard layouts you have available. These  depend on which language packs you have installed on your machine.

 

Cheers

 

Chris

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sakina
Sent: 18 July 2018 15:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

Friend,

For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US keyboard.

Since last night, it always did the proper action.

When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3

And used to with shift key give me # pound sign

But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.

Sakina

Letter 3 by itself.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

That’s odd, mine says pound sign as it should

I guess you are using US keyboard layout rather than the UK keyboard

 

 

From: Ian Blackburn
Sent: 18 July 2018 15:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

When the computer says the word number in that situation it means the pound sign

 


On 18 Jul 2018, at 10:18 pm, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:

Dear Gene and friends,

Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people app.

I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it manually.

For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.

Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.

Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do.

I will greatly appreciate any help.

Always thanking you all

Sakina

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Gene
 

Don't try that combination unless you know what it does.  It may be a short cut command that changes a setting in Word you won't know about until you print a document and it isn't formatted correctly.  Don't use alt anything combinations unless you know what they do. 
 
There are some combinations that are so standard that you can assume that they do this or something similar.  Alt f usually opens the file menu.  That is safe to try.  But trying combinations that are not standardized and you have no idea what they do, if anything, is a bad idea.  And it definitely won't do what you want since combinations like that are commands, if they do anything.
 
It is possible you changed the language your computer keyboard input is set to.  There is a short cut for that purpose.  You may have pressed the short cut command without knowing it.  Someone will probably tell you the command if you don't know it.  You can try it and see what happens.  I don't know it, I just know there is one.  I also believe that you will hear the language announced that you have switched to and that you can keep pressing it until you get to the language you want.  I don't know this, but based on comments earlier in the thread, it will probably say Brittish English or something similar when you get to the one you want.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

Give alt-shift a try…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sakina
Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 16:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

Friend,

For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US keyboard.

Since last night, it always did the proper action.

When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3

And used to with shift key give me # pound sign

But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.

Sakina

Letter 3 by itself.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

That’s odd, mine says pound sign as it should

I guess you are using US keyboard layout rather than the UK keyboard

 

 

From: Ian Blackburn
Sent: 18 July 2018 15:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

When the computer says the word number in that situation it means the pound sign

 


On 18 Jul 2018, at 10:18 pm, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:

Dear Gene and friends,

Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people app.

I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it manually.

For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.

Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.

Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do.

I will greatly appreciate any help.

Always thanking you all

Sakina

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Gene
 

It may be a change in Word, it may not.  It may be a change in the keyboard language input in Windows.  Whatever the case, the change almost certainly resulted in accidentally pressing a short cut command and the question is, what shortcut command changes the language language in Windows and what command changes the language Word is using.
 
It can be easily determined if the change is in the keyboard input for Windows setting or the Word language.  Open Notepad.  Press shift 3.  What do you hear?  If you hear what you expect to hear, the change is in Word.  If you still hear the wrong thing, the change is in Windows.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

I'd not know how this could be changed accidentally. Would she be likely to
have system restore on and be able to go back to a couple of days ago, or is
it off in 10 by default. Even then, I'm not sure it has any effect on the
installed keyboard language. i have had issues in the past with word
deciding to use American english templates for documents for no good reason
which really fouls up the spell checker big time!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign


> It sounds like your computer has switched from thinking it has a UK
> keyboard
> layout (which has a pound sign on shift-3) to a US layout (which has a
> hash
> symbol on shift-3, and is often read as "number").
>
> To confirm this, what do you get by pressing shift-2?
>
> A UK layout will give you double quote marks; a US layout will give you an
> "at" sign.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:18:29, Sakina wrote:
>
>> Dear Gene and friends,
>> Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people
>> app. I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it
>> out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy
>> doing it manually. For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to
>> field.
>> Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always
>> used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign. Now when I
>> press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.
>> I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I
>> am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do. I will
>> greatly appreciate any help.
>> Always thanking you all
>> Sakina
>
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Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
 

Hi,

On my Asus laptop I can switch between US layout to UK layout by
pressing the windows key and space bar and vice versa. Maybe you
could try this.

Regards,

Akbar

On 7/18/18, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Friend,
For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US
keyboard.
Since last night, it always did the proper action.
When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3
And used to with shift key give me # pound sign
But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.
Sakina
Letter 3 by itself.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

That’s odd, mine says pound sign as it should
I guess you are using US keyboard layout rather than the UK keyboard


From: Ian Blackburn
Sent: 18 July 2018 15:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

When the computer says the word number in that situation it means the pound
sign


On 18 Jul 2018, at 10:18 pm, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene and friends,
Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people
app.
I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out.
Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it
manually.
For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.
Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always
used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.
Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.
I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board as I am
one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know what to do.
I will greatly appreciate any help.
Always thanking you all
Sakina

Sent from Mail for Windows 10








Gene
 

I believe the person with this problem is using Windows 7.  Is that the command in Windows 7 or was it changed for Windows 10?  I suspect the command in Windows 7 is something else.  I don't think that Windows 7 made much use of Windows key letter commands.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

Hi,

On my Asus laptop I can switch between US layout to UK layout by
pressing the windows key and space bar and vice versa.  Maybe you
could try this.

Regards,

Akbar


On 7/18/18, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
> Friend,
> For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US
> keyboard.
> Since last night, it always did the proper action.
> When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3
> And used to with shift key give me # pound sign
> But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.
> Sakina
>  Letter 3 by itself.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Chris via Groups.Io
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:33 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign
>
> That’s odd, mine says pound sign as it should
> I guess you are using US keyboard layout rather than the UK keyboard
>
>
> From: Ian Blackburn
> Sent: 18 July 2018 15:21
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign
>
> When the computer says the word number in that situation it means the pound
> sign
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2018, at 10:18 pm, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
> Dear Gene and friends,
> Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people
> app.
> I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out.
> Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it
> manually.
> For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.
> Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always
> used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.
> Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.
> I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I am
> one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do.
> I will greatly appreciate any help.
> Always thanking you all
> Sakina
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Yes I know that, but that is not the issue here at all, In the UK hash was always number, but I've long since fixed that on. the point is that the machine has switched its keyboard to us English. Can somebody explain to me how to use windows space to fix it the? Has this always been there. I've never encountered it in many years, sounds very dangerous if true. I do know some screenreaders can change language using certain easy to hit keys, as \I'm always rescuing Dolphin users from all sorts of bizarre languages and synths!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign


?The problem is that NVDA have changed how the symbol is named...

/The # sign is now read as Number... /To change that, iy is necessary go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Punctuation/symbol pronunciation... and change it there...

Rui Fontes


Às 17:42 de 18/07/2018, Chris via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hitting windows+spacebar will change keyboard language

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*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

I'd not know how this could be changed accidentally. Would she be likely to

have system restore on and be able to go back to a couple of days ago, or is

it off in 10 by default. Even then, I'm not sure it has any effect on the

installed keyboard language. i have had issues in the past with word

deciding to use American english templates for documents for no good reason

which really fouls up the spell checker big time!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

> It sounds like your computer has switched from thinking it has a UK

> keyboard

> layout (which has a pound sign on shift-3) to a US layout (which has a

> hash

> symbol on shift-3, and is often read as "number").

>

> To confirm this, what do you get by pressing shift-2?

>

> A UK layout will give you double quote marks; a US layout will give
you an

> "at" sign.

>

>

> Antony.

>

> On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:18:29, Sakina wrote:

>

>> Dear Gene and friends,

>> Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my
people

>> app. I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure
it

>> out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy

>> doing it manually. For now I am cutting and pasting the address in
the to

>> field.

>> Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I
always

>> used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign. Now
when I

>> press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

>> I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board
as I

>> am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know what to do. I will

>> greatly appreciate any help.

>> Always thanking you all

>> Sakina

>

> --

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> oxen or

> 1024 chickens?

>

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>

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> list;

> please *don't* CC

> me.

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Not really, as I said earlier. its not the same.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: "Nvda List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign


Pound is number sign. So you did not lose it.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:

Dear Gene and friends,
Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people app.
I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it manually.
For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.
Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.
Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.
I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board as I am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know what to do.
I will greatly appreciate any help.
Always thanking you all
Sakina

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You are not wrong but you are wrong at the same time!
See my previous post. The position of the symbols moves, so the shift 3 is actually a different symbol. I do not care what some odd people call it nvda has always got pound right.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign


On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


This is a £ ie pound sign and this is a # ie hash or number sign.
Er, while you're not wrong that the pounds sterling sign is referred to as the pound sign, the symbol used at the start of a hashtag, often referred to as a number sign, is also referred to, and not infrequently, as the pound sign [programmers tend to do this a lot, as do people in telecommunications].

I do not believe the issue is with the pounds sterling symbol, but because the original poster was used to hearing # announced as "pound sign" and it's now being announced as "number."

I also just tried changing my keyboard from English, US, to English UK (UK Keyboard) and it is making no difference whatsoever in how # is being pronounced (number) or £ is being pronounced (pounds sterling) while it does change what gets typed when SHIFT+Number Row 2 is pressed.


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