Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -


Eleni Vamvakari
 

I'm on a family plan with TMobile. It's unlimited, with no overage
charges. But iy ou use a certain amount of data in one month, they
throttle the connection, making it much slower. I only use it during
the day when in the backyard or when on trips. Otherwise, I use our
home wifi, so it's not an issue. I would never use a pay as you go
plan, because I use the Internet for many hours per day, and my Skype
conversations are a minimum of three hours each.

I don't pay for the home wifi, and other things, which are not mine,
are connected to it. Plus, my parents know very little about
computers, so I'm not going to play with their modem.

On 16/07/2018, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts. I'd rather have Chrome than
Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something I
have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that I
may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened that
way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I could
have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot of
family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype and
others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled
with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an
issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are
many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will also be
interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with
regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel











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anyaudio.net: elvam2167

Skype: elvam2167


Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, can someone validate this statement are true for the sake of the welfare of others. For I know it's been almost years been using Skype for call and video conferencing to my folks. And how this will be going to be severely impacted some of us using of the Skype. The reason of this is because here in my area some of the folks and businesses uses Skype for their jobs, and useful to consider as well. Better to provide link that could shed details for this matter.Is this concern for the Windows 10 only or to other platform?

Robert Mendoza

On 7/17/2018 5:56 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
I'm on a family plan with TMobile. It's unlimited, with no overage
charges. But iy ou use a certain amount of data in one month, they
throttle the connection, making it much slower. I only use it during
the day when in the backyard or when on trips. Otherwise, I use our
home wifi, so it's not an issue. I would never use a pay as you go
plan, because I use the Internet for many hours per day, and my Skype
conversations are a minimum of three hours each.

I don't pay for the home wifi, and other things, which are not mine,
are connected to it. Plus, my parents know very little about
computers, so I'm not going to play with their modem.

On 16/07/2018, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts. I'd rather have Chrome than
Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something I
have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that I
may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened that
way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I could
have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot of
family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype and
others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled
with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an
issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are
many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will also be
interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with
regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel











Eleni Vamvakari
 

The article in question provided many details. Windows 10 was not
mentioned exclusively either. They are no longer supporting Skype 7,
what they call Classic Skype and will be forcing people to upgrade to
the modern version. Whether there is a way to avoid the updates and
whether Classic will still work I don't know. S Portable may be an
option, but even then, I usually have to tell it not to update.

On 16/07/2018, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, can someone validate this statement are true for the sake of the
welfare of others. For I know it's been almost years been using Skype
for call and video conferencing to my folks. And how this will be going
to be severely impacted some of us using of the Skype. The reason of
this is because here in my area some of the folks and businesses uses
Skype for their jobs, and useful to consider as well. Better to provide
link that could shed details for this matter.Is this concern for the
Windows 10 only or to other platform?

Robert Mendoza


On 7/17/2018 5:56 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
I'm on a family plan with TMobile. It's unlimited, with no overage
charges. But iy ou use a certain amount of data in one month, they
throttle the connection, making it much slower. I only use it during
the day when in the backyard or when on trips. Otherwise, I use our
home wifi, so it's not an issue. I would never use a pay as you go
plan, because I use the Internet for many hours per day, and my Skype
conversations are a minimum of three hours each.

I don't pay for the home wifi, and other things, which are not mine,
are connected to it. Plus, my parents know very little about
computers, so I'm not going to play with their modem.

On 16/07/2018, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts. I'd rather have Chrome
than
Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something
I
have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that
I
may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened
that
way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I
could
have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot
of
family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype
and
others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and
dabbled
with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an
issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there
are
many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will also
be
interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with
regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love
for
all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel













--
Facebook: elvam2167@gmail.com

anyaudio.net: elvam2167

Skype: elvam2167


 

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 06:41 PM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
Whether there is a way to avoid the updates and whether Classic will still work I don't know.
The author of the article gave a direct link to the Skype Blog article, Upgrade to the latest version of Skype for desktop, dated today (7/16/2018), that serves as the source material.  He quotes the following from it, "There comes a time when we must shut down older services and application versions."

The phrase "shutting down" is completely unambiguous in the tech world:  older versions will not work, and typically by intention.

I don't care whether your blind, or sighted, or whatever:  Nothing is so constant as change (and nowhere is it more constant than the world of computing).  When software vendors are telling you that the time has come to upgrade that should make you rush out and upgrade while you can have overlap between the old and new.  Once that shutdown occurs you will be tossed into the deep end.

Software and hardware both have service lives.  It does no good to cling to the dying or dead.  And, in the event the "latest  and greatest" isn't for you, for any you, your energy is far better spent finding a replacement.  This is another reason why early upgrading makes sense, as you can more accurately determine whether it's time to find a replacement if you simply cannot work with the latest and greatest.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Eleni Vamvakari
 

There are also instances in which using an older version remains
possible, though it is no longer updated. However, you're right. If
they're shutting it down, these versions will no longer work.

On 16/07/2018, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 06:41 PM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:


Whether there is a way to avoid the updates and whether Classic will
still
work I don't know.
The author of the article gave a direct link to the Skype Blog
article, Upgrade to the latest version of Skype for desktop (
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2018/07/16/upgrade-to-the-latest-version-of-skype-for-desktop/
) , dated today (7/16/2018), that serves as the source material.  He quotes
the following from it, " There comes a time when we must shut down older
services and application versions. "

The phrase "shutting down" is completely unambiguous in the tech world:
older versions will not work, and typically by intention.

I don't care whether your blind, or sighted, or whatever:  Nothing is so
constant as change (and nowhere is it more constant than the world of
computing).  When software vendors are telling you that the time has come to
upgrade that should make you rush out and upgrade while you can have overlap
between the old and new.  Once that shutdown occurs you will be tossed into
the deep end.

Software and hardware both have service lives.  It does no good to cling to
the dying or dead.  And, in the event the "latest  and greatest" isn't for
you, for any you, your energy is far better spent finding a replacement.
This is another reason why early upgrading makes sense, as you can more
accurately determine whether it's time to find a replacement if you simply
cannot work with the latest and greatest.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel



--
Facebook: elvam2167@gmail.com

anyaudio.net: elvam2167

Skype: elvam2167


 

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 07:39 PM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
If they're shutting it down, these versions will no longer work.
And that's the central point I was trying to make.  Those of us who have spent decades in information technology know that "shutting down" is not code for something, but is a direct statement of intent (and, of course, result).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


 

Well I am not in the us sadly.

I will look at it but to be honest if I start looking at hangouts web then I may as well use skype web.

On 7/17/2018 9:41 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Shaun,

           Have you tried hangouts.google.com in the web browser of your choice?  Some seem to "play better" with the Hangouts webpage than others do.

           I most commonly use the Chrome App, but I have used the Hangouts webpage, too.  Of course, you do have to acquire a Google Voice number (which is available at no cost only in the USA and Canada) in order for Hangouts to act like a typical phone line does.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel



 

I like waterfox, chrome is fine I guess, but who knows.

On 7/17/2018 9:42 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts. I'd rather have Chrome than Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something I have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that I may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened that way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I could have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot of family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype and others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel









.


 

Every platform, however to be honest you will have to learn the new skype if you need it I for myself don't but if you do you will have to use the new one as best as you can.

On 7/17/2018 10:35 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, can someone validate this statement are true for the sake of the welfare of others. For I know it's been almost years been using Skype for call and video conferencing to my folks. And how this will be going to be severely impacted some of us using of the Skype. The reason of this is because here in my area some of the folks and businesses uses Skype for their jobs, and useful to consider as well. Better to provide link that could shed details for this matter.Is this concern for the Windows 10 only or to other platform?

Robert Mendoza


On 7/17/2018 5:56 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
I'm on a family plan with TMobile.  It's unlimited, with no overage
charges.  But iy ou use a certain amount of data in one month, they
throttle the connection, making it much slower.  I only use it during
the day when in the backyard or when on trips.  Otherwise, I use our
home wifi, so it's not an issue.  I would never use a pay as you go
plan, because I use the Internet for many hours per day, and my Skype
conversations are a minimum of three hours each.

I don't pay for the home wifi, and other things, which are not mine,
are connected to it.  Plus, my parents know very little about
computers, so I'm not going to play with their modem.

On 16/07/2018, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts.  I'd rather have Chrome than
Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something I
have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that I
may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened that
way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I could
have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot of
family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype and
others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled
with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this such an
issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are
many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible.  It will also be
interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with
regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

     A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

             ~ Richard Dehmel












.


 

No its not updates from the article, they are killing the minimal version on the server, ie if you have not got 8 on september 1 onward you won't be able to even login.

On 7/17/2018 10:41 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
The article in question provided many details. Windows 10 was not
mentioned exclusively either. They are no longer supporting Skype 7,
what they call Classic Skype and will be forcing people to upgrade to
the modern version. Whether there is a way to avoid the updates and
whether Classic will still work I don't know. S Portable may be an
option, but even then, I usually have to tell it not to update.

On 16/07/2018, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, can someone validate this statement are true for the sake of the
welfare of others. For I know it's been almost years been using Skype
for call and video conferencing to my folks. And how this will be going
to be severely impacted some of us using of the Skype. The reason of
this is because here in my area some of the folks and businesses uses
Skype for their jobs, and useful to consider as well. Better to provide
link that could shed details for this matter.Is this concern for the
Windows 10 only or to other platform?

Robert Mendoza


On 7/17/2018 5:56 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
I'm on a family plan with TMobile. It's unlimited, with no overage
charges. But iy ou use a certain amount of data in one month, they
throttle the connection, making it much slower. I only use it during
the day when in the backyard or when on trips. Otherwise, I use our
home wifi, so it's not an issue. I would never use a pay as you go
plan, because I use the Internet for many hours per day, and my Skype
conversations are a minimum of three hours each.

I don't pay for the home wifi, and other things, which are not mine,
are connected to it. Plus, my parents know very little about
computers, so I'm not going to play with their modem.

On 16/07/2018, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts. I'd rather have Chrome
than
Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something
I
have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that
I
may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened
that
way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I
could
have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot
of
family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype
and
others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and
dabbled
with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an
issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there
are
many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will also
be
interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with
regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love
for
all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel












Gene
 

At times, when I am discussing what someone should do and the person is afraid to try a new version of something, I tell them that it's better to learn a new thing when they are not under pressure to do so.  If they wait until what they are currently using no longer can be used, they will have to learn the new thing under pressure because they can't use the old thing while they learn.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 06:41 PM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
Whether there is a way to avoid the updates and whether Classic will still work I don't know.
The author of the article gave a direct link to the Skype Blog article, Upgrade to the latest version of Skype for desktop, dated today (7/16/2018), that serves as the source material.  He quotes the following from it, "There comes a time when we must shut down older services and application versions."

The phrase "shutting down" is completely unambiguous in the tech world:  older versions will not work, and typically by intention.

I don't care whether your blind, or sighted, or whatever:  Nothing is so constant as change (and nowhere is it more constant than the world of computing).  When software vendors are telling you that the time has come to upgrade that should make you rush out and upgrade while you can have overlap between the old and new.  Once that shutdown occurs you will be tossed into the deep end.

Software and hardware both have service lives.  It does no good to cling to the dying or dead.  And, in the event the "latest  and greatest" isn't for you, for any you, your energy is far better spent finding a replacement.  This is another reason why early upgrading makes sense, as you can more accurately determine whether it's time to find a replacement if you simply cannot work with the latest and greatest.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


mikolaj holysz <miki123211@...>
 

Skype 8's already out, it's much less accessible and much harder to use. It's an issue for those who need to use skype because the people they want to contact use skype and it's hard to convince them to do otherwise. That might be because of business rules mandating it's use for internal calls or skype subscriptions the business has. It might also be an issue for those for whom using Skype is much cheaper than using anything else, perhaps because they already have a long subscription for calling phones via Skype, a way to cheaply get gift codes for such subscription (perhaps from a loyalty programs) or some exemption in their carrier's data plans for using Skype that doesn't exist for other, competing services.



W dniu 2018-07-16 o 23:25, Brian Vogel pisze:

This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this such an issue?
It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible.  It will also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
/A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind./
           ~ Richard Dehmel


 

Is skype app the same?

From where I am standing, the blind just don't use skype anymore.

So we can't do any work needing skype now.

On 7/17/2018 11:59 AM, mikolaj holysz wrote:
Skype 8's already out, it's much less accessible and much harder to use. It's an issue for those who need to use skype because the people they want to contact use skype and it's hard to convince them to do otherwise. That might be because of business rules mandating it's use for internal calls or skype subscriptions the business has. It might also be an issue for those for whom using Skype is much cheaper than using anything else, perhaps because they already have a long subscription for calling phones via Skype, a way to cheaply get gift codes for such subscription (perhaps from a loyalty programs) or some exemption in their carrier's data plans for using Skype that doesn't exist for other, competing services.



W dniu 2018-07-16 o 23:25, Brian Vogel pisze:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this such an issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible.  It will also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

/A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind./

            ~ Richard Dehmel




Lino Morales
 

That’s a rather stupid blanket statement Sean. I’m sure their still a lot of blind people who still use Skype regardless of what platform they are on.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:55:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
 
Is skype app the same?

 From where I am standing, the blind just don't use skype anymore.

So we can't do any work needing skype now.




On 7/17/2018 11:59 AM, mikolaj holysz wrote:
> Skype 8's already out, it's much less accessible and much harder to
> use. It's an issue for those who need to use skype because the people
> they want to contact use skype and it's hard to convince them to do
> otherwise. That might be because of business rules mandating it's use
> for internal calls or skype subscriptions the business has. It might
> also be an issue for those for whom using Skype is much cheaper than
> using anything else, perhaps because they already have a long
> subscription for calling phones via Skype, a way to cheaply get gift
> codes for such subscription (perhaps from a loyalty programs) or some
> exemption in their carrier's data plans for using Skype that doesn't
> exist for other, competing services.
>
>
>
> W dniu 2018-07-16 o 23:25, Brian Vogel pisze:
>> This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and
>> dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this
>> such an issue?
>>
>> It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there
>> are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible.  It will
>> also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur,
>> particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
>>
>> /A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love
>> for all humankind./
>>
>>             ~ Richard Dehmel
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





Robert Mendoza
 

Alright then, Shaun I will wait further instructions more on how to shift to new line of Skype version from here but surely the rest of the folks here are vastly impacted by this killing of the classic interface if there will be a time to be out in the space soon for sure the pressure will be more intense as it was generally specially for the blind who uses themselves the classic for their job calls, Or rather look for alternative VOIP service that is accessible

Robert Mendoza

On 7/17/2018 8:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Every platform, however to be honest you will have to learn the new skype if you need it I for myself don't but if you do you will have to use the new one as best as you can.




On 7/17/2018 10:35 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, can someone validate this statement are true for the sake of the welfare of others. For I know it's been almost years been using Skype for call and video conferencing to my folks. And how this will be going to be severely impacted some of us using of the Skype. The reason of this is because here in my area some of the folks and businesses uses Skype for their jobs, and useful to consider as well. Better to provide link that could shed details for this matter.Is this concern for the Windows 10 only or to other platform?

Robert Mendoza


On 7/17/2018 5:56 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
I'm on a family plan with TMobile.  It's unlimited, with no overage
charges.  But iy ou use a certain amount of data in one month, they
throttle the connection, making it much slower.  I only use it during
the day when in the backyard or when on trips.  Otherwise, I use our
home wifi, so it's not an issue.  I would never use a pay as you go
plan, because I use the Internet for many hours per day, and my Skype
conversations are a minimum of three hours each.

I don't pay for the home wifi, and other things, which are not mine,
are connected to it.  Plus, my parents know very little about
computers, so I'm not going to play with their modem.

On 16/07/2018, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Sean,

I like Chrome, so therefore, I like hangouts.  I'd rather have Chrome than
Edge any day.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 16 July 2018 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

I am not exactly happy with leaving skype, since skype has been something I
have had to use on and off, however while there was a potential time that I
may have had to use skype, fact is there for business it never happened that
way.

Hangouts needs chrome, I would really like a stand alone client if I could
have that.

I have not decided but I may try to learn the new skype, however a lot of
family use whats app on a newer mobile device and there is also skype and
others and who knows.

I like my pc though.




On 7/17/2018 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled
with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this such an
issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are
many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will also be
interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with
regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

     A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

             ~ Richard Dehmel













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P. Otter
 

hi, but changing to another communicationtool than skype, it is also another system than skype.
i've a lot of contacts they are also using skype.
all the contacts we have are lost or they have to change with you!
i think it will be a mess!
we can ask microsoft to keep skype classic alive!
cheers
paul otter
 

Op 16-7-2018 om 23:25 schreef Brian Vogel:

This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this such an issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible.  It will also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 



 

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM, P. Otter wrote:
we can ask microsoft to keep skype classic alive!
Or you can ask them to make the latest version accessible.

I can tell you which is likely to have even the slightest possibility of a positive outcome.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Brian

I agreed that is the least steps to consider to take place our actions, if microsoft insist us to move to a new version better to come up with better mitigation to resolve to make it possible to be accessible. Also, like to add, since we are talking Skype here. I tried to open the Skype apps to my Windows 10 but unlikely so slow to load. Not sure if others has the same experience with it.

Robert mendoza



On 7/17/2018 11:41 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM, P. Otter wrote:
we can ask microsoft to keep skype classic alive!
Or you can ask them to make the latest version accessible.

I can tell you which is likely to have even the slightest possibility of a positive outcome.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 



Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I certainly don't find the windows 10 app terrible.

It's no worse than anything else out there as far as general navigation. Google hangouts comes to mind here. They are laid out very similarly.

So, before we start pointing figures that skype classic needed to stay, consider that Microsoft moved forward to keep up with other apps long after those apps came on the market and changed the general look and feel of these sorts of programs.


I have yet to use skype 8.0, so I'm reserving judgement. But I can't imagine it is unusable or any worse than anything else out there in 2018.




On 16-Jul-2018 10:59 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Brian

I agreed that is the least steps to consider to take place our actions, if microsoft insist us to move to a new version better to come up with better mitigation to resolve to make it possible to be accessible. Also, like to add, since we are talking Skype here. I tried to open the Skype apps to my Windows 10 but unlikely so slow to load. Not sure if others has the same experience with it.

Robert mendoza



On 7/17/2018 11:41 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM, P. Otter wrote:
we can ask microsoft to keep skype classic alive!
Or you can ask them to make the latest version accessible.

I can tell you which is likely to have even the slightest possibility of a positive outcome.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 




Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Okay, the simple answer, for me, is that no mattter how many accessible options there are, my friends are all either on Skype or Discord, and the latter is still inaccessible last I heard. I can't expect my sighted friends to go to TeamTalk or any other thing, and from the sounds of things it wouldn't be worth it the few times I call anyone.


I mainly use Skype's text chat feature. In current Skype, it is easier to flip between conversations and read the chat history. In Skype 8, which I tried last year, I could not work out how to do either.


On 17/07/2018 7:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use:   Why is this such an issue?

It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible.  It will also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel