MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files


kelby carlson
 

I can't figure out how to use this program with NVDA. All I would like
to do is split a single file into four parts, but the manual's
explanation for how to do this is extremely unclear as it involves
graphs. Prior threads suggest this program may be accessible--can
anybody help me out here?

--
K. Scott Carlson


Gene
 

I don’t know how you are trying to split files.  Do you know how to edit?  If I want to divide a file, I do so by editing.  I will describe the procedure in another message if you don’t know how.
 
In essence, you select a part of a file, save the selected material, delete the selected material, then repeat the procedure until you have saved the parts you have selected, all as separate files.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:01 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
I can't figure out how to use this program with NVDA. All I would like
to do is split a single file into four parts, but the manual's
explanation for how to do this is extremely unclear as it involves
graphs. Prior threads suggest this program may be accessible--can
anybody help me out here?

--
K. Scott Carlson





kelby carlson
 

What I was trying to do was create a cue sheet, but I guess this would
work. How do you edit the way you are describing if you know exactly
the times at which you want to split the files?

On 10/11/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don’t know how you are trying to split files. Do you know how to edit?
If I want to divide a file, I do so by editing. I will describe the
procedure in another message if you don’t know how.

In essence, you select a part of a file, save the selected material, delete
the selected material, then repeat the procedure until you have saved the
parts you have selected, all as separate files.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:01 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files

I can't figure out how to use this program with NVDA. All I would like
to do is split a single file into four parts, but the manual's
explanation for how to do this is extremely unclear as it involves
graphs. Prior threads suggest this program may be accessible--can
anybody help me out here?

--
K. Scott Carlson









--
K. Scott Carlson


Gene
 

If I want to edit by time, I check the time.  I don’t know which screen-reader you are using but you can check the time as you move.  It would be more convenient if scripts are available that allow you to check the time with a command but you can do so with the JAWS cursor or with screen review in NVDA.
 
I’ll describe how if you want.
 
To do what I described in my last message, place the start marker where you want it.  The command is the letter b.  You can place it at the very beginning of the file.  If you open a file and type b, the marker is set at the very beginning. 
Play or move through the file until the place where you want to set the end marker. 
Do so with the letter n.
Then save the selected content.  The selected content is between the two markers.
Use control e to open the save selected dialog.
Type a name and press enter.
The content will be saved.
Then delete what you have selected from the file you are working with.  Press delete.
If you want to set the start marker where you are, press b again.
Follow the same procedure until you have saved all the segments of the file.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
What I was trying to do was create a cue sheet, but I guess this would
work. How do you edit the way you are describing if you know exactly
the times at which you want to split the files?

On 10/11/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I don’t know how you are trying to split files.  Do you know how to edit?
> If I want to divide a file, I do so by editing.  I will describe the
> procedure in another message if you don’t know how.
>
> In essence, you select a part of a file, save the selected material, delete
> the selected material, then repeat the procedure until you have saved the
> parts you have selected, all as separate files.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kelby carlson
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 3:01 PM
> To: nvda
> Subject: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
>
> I can't figure out how to use this program with NVDA. All I would like
> to do is split a single file into four parts, but the manual's
> explanation for how to do this is extremely unclear as it involves
> graphs. Prior threads suggest this program may be accessible--can
> anybody help me out here?
>
> --
> K. Scott Carlson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
K. Scott Carlson





Pele West
 

Hi

You can also split the files by Pause Detection. This will create a new track each time there is a silence of a specified number of seconds:

1. Open the file to be split

2. Press Alt P for Special

3. Press P for Pause Detection

4. There are a lot of settings you can play with by tabbing through the dialog box

5. Tab to Start and press it

6. It will then mark all the places where there are silences

7. Tab to Close and press it

8. Press Control T to split the file into the detected tracks

9. There are various options you can set in this dialog box. I tend to set it to create tracks beginning with 01

10. Press <Enter> to create the tracks. It should create them in the same folder as the original file

You can also split the file manually:

1. Open the File

2. Press B N Del (the Delete Key) to create the first Q point

3. Move through the file using Up and Down Arrow and PageUp and PageDown until you find where you want to split the file

4. Press B N Del to make another Q point. Do this until you have set all your points

5. Press <Control T> to split the file as in 8 above.

You can split by time, but I have not found that very easy.

I hope this helps, but come back if you have any problems.

Pele West


Gene
 

I tried your instructions for manual splitting.  They don’t work.  Did you leave something out?  I did exactly as you stated, opening the file and moving through it, pressing d then l at each intended split point.  When I used control t, I got a message that said something like no edit point set. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pele West
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
Hi

You can also split the files by Pause Detection. This will create a new
track each time there is a silence of a specified number of seconds:

1. Open the file to be split

2. Press Alt P for Special

3. Press P for Pause Detection

4. There are a lot of settings you can play with by tabbing through the
dialog box

5. Tab to Start and press it

6. It will then mark all the places where there are silences

7. Tab to Close and press it

8. Press Control T to split the file into the detected tracks

9. There are various options you can set in this dialog box. I tend to
set it to create tracks beginning with 01

10. Press <Enter> to create the tracks. It should create them in the
same folder as the original file

You can also split the file manually:

1. Open the File

2. Press B N Del (the Delete Key) to create the first Q point

3. Move through the file using Up and Down Arrow and PageUp and PageDown
until you find where you want to split the file

4. Press B N Del to make another Q point. Do this until you have set all
your points

5. Press <Control T> to split the file as in 8 above.

You can split by time, but I have not found that very easy.

I hope this helps, but come back if you have any problems.

Pele West






Gene
 

I looked up information and figured out the problem.  it’s the d and l commands.  The correct commands are b followed by c. 
 
I haven’t looked at how to change how files are named.  By default, names begin with track and a number such as track.mp3.  I didn’t check the filename reading by character or have it spelled so there may be syntax in the title I am not aware of.  But the names begin with the word track with nothing before the t so first letter navigation can be used. 
 
The new files are placed in the same folder as the file you are splitting. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
I tried your instructions for manual splitting.  They don’t work.  Did you leave something out?  I did exactly as you stated, opening the file and moving through it, pressing d then l at each intended split point.  When I used control t, I got a message that said something like no edit point set. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pele West
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
Hi

You can also split the files by Pause Detection. This will create a new
track each time there is a silence of a specified number of seconds:

1. Open the file to be split

2. Press Alt P for Special

3. Press P for Pause Detection

4. There are a lot of settings you can play with by tabbing through the
dialog box

5. Tab to Start and press it

6. It will then mark all the places where there are silences

7. Tab to Close and press it

8. Press Control T to split the file into the detected tracks

9. There are various options you can set in this dialog box. I tend to
set it to create tracks beginning with 01

10. Press <Enter> to create the tracks. It should create them in the
same folder as the original file

You can also split the file manually:

1. Open the File

2. Press B N Del (the Delete Key) to create the first Q point

3. Move through the file using Up and Down Arrow and PageUp and PageDown
until you find where you want to split the file

4. Press B N Del to make another Q point. Do this until you have set all
your points

5. Press <Control T> to split the file as in 8 above.

You can split by time, but I have not found that very easy.

I hope this helps, but come back if you have any problems.

Pele West







Gene
 

As an example, I meant to say track 1.mp3.  There is a space between track and 1.  I checked after writing my previous message and aside from that, no other syntax is added. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
I looked up information and figured out the problem.  it’s the d and l commands.  The correct commands are b followed by c. 
 
I haven’t looked at how to change how files are named.  By default, names begin with track and a number such as track.mp3.  I didn’t check the filename reading by character or have it spelled so there may be syntax in the title I am not aware of.  But the names begin with the word track with nothing before the t so first letter navigation can be used. 
 
The new files are placed in the same folder as the file you are splitting. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
I tried your instructions for manual splitting.  They don’t work.  Did you leave something out?  I did exactly as you stated, opening the file and moving through it, pressing d then l at each intended split point.  When I used control t, I got a message that said something like no edit point set. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pele West
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
 
Hi

You can also split the files by Pause Detection. This will create a new
track each time there is a silence of a specified number of seconds:

1. Open the file to be split

2. Press Alt P for Special

3. Press P for Pause Detection

4. There are a lot of settings you can play with by tabbing through the
dialog box

5. Tab to Start and press it

6. It will then mark all the places where there are silences

7. Tab to Close and press it

8. Press Control T to split the file into the detected tracks

9. There are various options you can set in this dialog box. I tend to
set it to create tracks beginning with 01

10. Press <Enter> to create the tracks. It should create them in the
same folder as the original file

You can also split the file manually:

1. Open the File

2. Press B N Del (the Delete Key) to create the first Q point

3. Move through the file using Up and Down Arrow and PageUp and PageDown
until you find where you want to split the file

4. Press B N Del to make another Q point. Do this until you have set all
your points

5. Press <Control T> to split the file as in 8 above.

You can split by time, but I have not found that very easy.

I hope this helps, but come back if you have any problems.

Pele West







Pele West
 

Hi Gene

Apologies, I realise this does not sound good if you only have a speech synthesizer. I am also using a braille display.

what I wrote was
Press B N Del

That is press the letter B, the letter N and then the Delete Key. This will create a Q point.

I have just been using it to split a file.

Apologies again

pele West


Gene
 

For some reason, my previous message appears not to have been sent.  Here it is again;.


I tried your method and they both work so people may use whichever they want.


It does sound very different with speech.


Gene

On 10/12/2021 9:48 AM, Pele West wrote:
Hi Gene

Apologies, I realise this does not sound good if you only have a speech synthesizer. I am also using a braille display.

what I wrote was
Press B N Del

That is press the letter B, the letter N and then the Delete Key. This will create a Q point.

I have just been using it to split a file.

Apologies again

pele West