Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

I don't know if the following will be of any help, but since it's in my stash of tutorials, it can't hurt:

 

Rearranging the Column Order in Thunderbird Using the NVDA Mozilla Apps Enhancement Add-On

The following presumes you have already installed the previously noted Mozilla Apps Enhancements add on, have restarted NVDA, and have Thunderbird up and running with focus on the Thunderbird window.

1. Hit NVDA+H.  A dialog entitled, Manage columns, appears.  That dialog is composed of a list of the columns in the order they are currently being displayed from left to right, with the leftmost column at the top of the list.

2.  The next thing I suggest you do, but this step is optional, is to hit ALT+O, which will cause the list of Thunderbird columns, in Thunderbird itself, to be displayed with a checkbox in front of those columns you wish to have displayed, and nothing (unchecked) for those you want to hide.  It's worth down arrowing through that column list and deciding if there are any currently checked (displayed) columns you'd like to hide, and uncheck those, and vice versa.  Hitting ESC closes the Thunderbird column selection process and throws you back to the Mozilla Apps Enhancements dialog.

3.  Back in the dialog column list, gain focus on the column that you would like to move.  If you want it to be to the left of where it is (and that means it would be announced first), then hit ALT+U to move it up by one position.  Repeat the ALT+U as many times as necessary to get it where you want it.  If you want this column to be announced later than it currently is (moving it to the right/down the list), hit ALT+D as many times as necessary to get it where you want it relative to other columns.

4.  Review your column order by going to the top of the list and down arrowing through it so you know what the "First announced to last announced" order is.  If you find a mistake, then repeat step 3, moving the column or columns to where you want them.

5. Navigate to the Close button for the dialog and activate it.  You're done.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

Thanks Brian. The problem is, despite being in the Thunderbird window with the keyboard cursor on the message list, the dialogue would not open, instead saying no columns available. One thing I forgot to do is make double sure she had the right version of Thunderbird and didn't accidentally get an old one. I have 91.10.0 and the columns dialogue works fine for me on my system with NVDA+H.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 4:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I don't know if the following will be of any help, but since it's in my stash of tutorials, it can't hurt:

 

Rearranging the Column Order in Thunderbird Using the NVDA Mozilla Apps Enhancement Add-On

The following presumes you have already installed the previously noted Mozilla Apps Enhancements add on, have restarted NVDA, and have Thunderbird up and running with focus on the Thunderbird window.

1. Hit NVDA+H.  A dialog entitled, Manage columns, appears.  That dialog is composed of a list of the columns in the order they are currently being displayed from left to right, with the leftmost column at the top of the list.

2.  The next thing I suggest you do, but this step is optional, is to hit ALT+O, which will cause the list of Thunderbird columns, in Thunderbird itself, to be displayed with a checkbox in front of those columns you wish to have displayed, and nothing (unchecked) for those you want to hide.  It's worth down arrowing through that column list and deciding if there are any currently checked (displayed) columns you'd like to hide, and uncheck those, and vice versa.  Hitting ESC closes the Thunderbird column selection process and throws you back to the Mozilla Apps Enhancements dialog.

3.  Back in the dialog column list, gain focus on the column that you would like to move.  If you want it to be to the left of where it is (and that means it would be announced first), then hit ALT+U to move it up by one position.  Repeat the ALT+U as many times as necessary to get it where you want it.  If you want this column to be announced later than it currently is (moving it to the right/down the list), hit ALT+D as many times as necessary to get it where you want it relative to other columns.

4.  Review your column order by going to the top of the list and down arrowing through it so you know what the "First announced to last announced" order is.  If you find a mistake, then repeat step 3, moving the column or columns to where you want them.

5. Navigate to the Close button for the dialog and activate it.  You're done.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

It only said my email address, not my name.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since others see your name, whatever the cause, you don't need to worry.  I see this:
Keao Wright nvda@nvda.groups.io

On 6/13/2022 1:39 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

It only said my email address, not my name.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lets see, at the time when I replied back I was using outlook.

Do you use reply to all when you send a message back to the list?

On 6/12/2022 8:48 PM, Gene wrote:

Since others see your name, whatever the cause, you don't need to worry.  I see this:
Keao Wright nvda@nvda.groups.io

On 6/13/2022 1:39 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

It only said my email address, not my name.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, just reply.  That is determined by how the list is set up.  Most lists don't require using reply to all.

Gene

On 6/13/2022 1:51 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Lets see, at the time when I replied back I was using outlook.

Do you use reply to all when you send a message back to the list?

On 6/12/2022 8:48 PM, Gene wrote:

Since others see your name, whatever the cause, you don't need to worry.  I see this:
Keao Wright nvda@nvda.groups.io

On 6/13/2022 1:39 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

It only said my email address, not my name.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

 

ah ok, thanks Gene!

Does nvda work with HTML emails ok?

On 6/12/2022 8:52 PM, Gene wrote:

No, just reply.  That is determined by how the list is set up.  Most lists don't require using reply to all.

Gene

On 6/13/2022 1:51 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Lets see, at the time when I replied back I was using outlook.

Do you use reply to all when you send a message back to the list?

On 6/12/2022 8:48 PM, Gene wrote:

Since others see your name, whatever the cause, you don't need to worry.  I see this:
Keao Wright nvda@nvda.groups.io

On 6/13/2022 1:39 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

It only said my email address, not my name.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes. 

Gene

On 6/13/2022 1:55 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

ah ok, thanks Gene!

Does nvda work with HTML emails ok?

On 6/12/2022 8:52 PM, Gene wrote:

No, just reply.  That is determined by how the list is set up.  Most lists don't require using reply to all.

Gene

On 6/13/2022 1:51 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Lets see, at the time when I replied back I was using outlook.

Do you use reply to all when you send a message back to the list?

On 6/12/2022 8:48 PM, Gene wrote:

Since others see your name, whatever the cause, you don't need to worry.  I see this:
Keao Wright nvda@nvda.groups.io

On 6/13/2022 1:39 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

It only said my email address, not my name.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?

Gene
Gene

On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.

 

On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein