New Thunderbird Version 102.0 Issues


Gene
 

When I discussed the Mozilla Enhancements add-on and said it started working, I meant the manage columns dialog, NVDA h.  I never use the functions later discussed.  It was so long since I read about them that I forgot about them.

Sorry if there was confusion.

Gene


Curtis Delzer
 

In t-bird 102, does the control-shift-K still work as great as it does using NVDA for filtering messages with different characteristics in headers like "messages with attachments," or with something you can type inside the area you are searching for like "pete" or John," for example?

sure works well in v91 . . .

On 7/2/2022 8:30 PM, Gene wrote:
I just wrote different things in the search dialog, tabbed to the list, and down arrowed through the results.  I don't see why playing with the address book would cause any change and I don't know if it did.

You could try maximizing the window or normalizing it, whatever is the opposite of what it is now, but I didn't do that.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gene,

I still can't get it to work. I even restarted the system and still no go.

What did you change in the settings in address book or program that seemed to get it to work?



On 7/2/2022 8:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is an odd thing.  The NVDA Mozilla apps enhancements didn't work when I first tried it in the new version.  I tried it again a little later and now it does.  I was playing with the address book search, and I have no idea if that changed anything regarding the layout but it works for now, at least for now, I don't know if it will continue to work.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 6:58 PM, Gene wrote:
If you want to look down the list of addresses, if you turn browse mode off in the address book and tab to the list, you can up and down arrow in it and it will appear as a standard list.  There is no first letter navigation.

Autocomplete works as before in e-mail messages.  I haven't played with the search address book feature to any extent and I'm not sure I understand it yet.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 6:50 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
Here, below my signature, is the page that comes up in Thunderbird the first time it runs after the update.  As you will see, the header layout has been changed, which assumedly, accounts for the NVDA Mozilla enhancements no longer working.

If people aren't aware of this, you can set Thunderbird not to update automatically and to inform you when updates are available.

Gene

New in Thunderbird 102
This article describes some of the major changes visible to users in Thunderbird version 102. Full details of all the changes can be found in the Thunderbird release notes from 102.0 and up.
Thunderbird is both free and freedom respecting, but we’re also completely funded by donations! Help us sustain the project and continue to improve.
Screenshot of Thunderbird's new system dark mode.
Screenshot of Thunderbird's new message header.
MESSAGE HEADER REDESIGN
Thunderbird 102 helps you be more productive with less effort. When reading your email, the redesigned message header allows you to focus on what matters as it highlights important information. It’s also more responsive and easier to navigate. Plus, you can star important messages from the message header itself, and easily convert them into a calendar event or a task.
NEW ADDRESS BOOK
Thunderbird 102 gives your contacts a serious upgrade! The refreshed design makes it easier to navigate and interact with your contacts, and helps you better understand who you’re communicating with. The new Address Book has compatibility with vCard specs, meaning if your app can export your existing contacts into vCard format, Thunderbird can import them. Each contact card also acts as a launchpad for messaging, email, and event creation.
Screenshot of Thunderbird's new addressbook.
Screenshot of the new import and export wizards in Thunderbird.
NEW IMPORT/EXPORT WIZARD
Thunderbird 102 makes it quick and simple to move your accounts and data around. The new step-by-step wizard provides a guided experience for importing all that data that’s important to you. We’ve also taken extra precautions to ensure that no data is accidentally duplicated in your profile after an import. Moving from Outlook, SeaMonkey, or another Thunderbird installation is easier than ever. No add-ons required!
NEW SPACES TOOLBAR
Thunderbird 102 makes navigating the application more intuitive thanks to the the new Spaces Toolbar. Move between all of your activities with ease, whether it’s managing email, working with contacts through the awesome new address book, using the calendar and tasks functionality, chat, and even add-ons! If you want to save screen real estate, the Spaces Toolbar can be dismissed, and you can instead navigate the different activities Thunderbird offers with the new Pinned Spaces tab.
Screenshot showing the new matrix chat in Thunderbird.
Screenshot of the new spaces toolbar in Thunderbird.
NEW MATRIX CHAT SUPPORT
Thunderbird 102 offers a new way to chat privately and securely with your colleagues, friends, and family. We’ve added support for the open-source, decentralized chat protocol Matrix, and it’s usable right out of the box! (As always, we welcome your feedback since it’s an evolving service.)
OTHER NOTABLE CHANGES
There are many other big changes that make Thunderbird 102 a very large release including:
• New Icons and Default Folder Colors
• Use Thunderbird without an email account (for example, as an RSS reader)
• Numerous OpenPGP improvements
• CalendarLocal parser converted to javascript
• Today Pane calendar UI refresh
• POP3 implemented in javascript
• Account settings moved to macOS application menu
• Plus: Application-wide font size control, Theme fixes, FileLink fixes, Accessibility fixes, improved vCard integration, improved calendar startup performance, Calendar fixes including correct order of week view headers and days for right to left locales.
You can see details of all our changes in the release notes for Thunderbird 102.0 and up.
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Gene
 

I don't use that feature but without having tried it, it appears that the same interface comes up and that it is just as accessible.

This is an excellent example of how people who want to see if a new version of Thunderbird does what they want  can do so using Thunderbird portable.  If they are using an installed version and they want to continue doing so, they can place Thunderbird Portable on a machine and leave the installed version as it is.  If they are already using the portable version, they can have a back up of the current version, upgrade and, if they want to go back, just delete the folder containing the updated version and copy the backup folder to the location from which they usually run the portable version.

If you do this and you don't want it to automatically update, disconnect from the internet, run the copy of the backup you placed in the location from which you run the program, and make sure the update setting is to inform you of updates but let you decide whether to update.  for some reason, that setting is often lost and it reverts to automatic updating when you copy the folder to different locations.

Gene

On 7/5/2022 11:50 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

In t-bird 102, does the control-shift-K still work as great as it does using NVDA for filtering messages with different characteristics in headers like "messages with attachments," or with something you can type inside the area you are searching for like "pete" or John," for example?

sure works well in v91 . . .

On 7/2/2022 8:30 PM, Gene wrote:
I just wrote different things in the search dialog, tabbed to the list, and down arrowed through the results.  I don't see why playing with the address book would cause any change and I don't know if it did.

You could try maximizing the window or normalizing it, whatever is the opposite of what it is now, but I didn't do that.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gene,

I still can't get it to work. I even restarted the system and still no go.

What did you change in the settings in address book or program that seemed to get it to work?



On 7/2/2022 8:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is an odd thing.  The NVDA Mozilla apps enhancements didn't work when I first tried it in the new version.  I tried it again a little later and now it does.  I was playing with the address book search, and I have no idea if that changed anything regarding the layout but it works for now, at least for now, I don't know if it will continue to work.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 6:58 PM, Gene wrote:
If you want to look down the list of addresses, if you turn browse mode off in the address book and tab to the list, you can up and down arrow in it and it will appear as a standard list.  There is no first letter navigation.

Autocomplete works as before in e-mail messages.  I haven't played with the search address book feature to any extent and I'm not sure I understand it yet.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 6:50 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
Here, below my signature, is the page that comes up in Thunderbird the first time it runs after the update.  As you will see, the header layout has been changed, which assumedly, accounts for the NVDA Mozilla enhancements no longer working.

If people aren't aware of this, you can set Thunderbird not to update automatically and to inform you when updates are available.

Gene

New in Thunderbird 102
This article describes some of the major changes visible to users in Thunderbird version 102. Full details of all the changes can be found in the Thunderbird release notes from 102.0 and up.
Thunderbird is both free and freedom respecting, but we’re also completely funded by donations! Help us sustain the project and continue to improve.
Screenshot of Thunderbird's new system dark mode.
Screenshot of Thunderbird's new message header.
MESSAGE HEADER REDESIGN
Thunderbird 102 helps you be more productive with less effort. When reading your email, the redesigned message header allows you to focus on what matters as it highlights important information. It’s also more responsive and easier to navigate. Plus, you can star important messages from the message header itself, and easily convert them into a calendar event or a task.
NEW ADDRESS BOOK
Thunderbird 102 gives your contacts a serious upgrade! The refreshed design makes it easier to navigate and interact with your contacts, and helps you better understand who you’re communicating with. The new Address Book has compatibility with vCard specs, meaning if your app can export your existing contacts into vCard format, Thunderbird can import them. Each contact card also acts as a launchpad for messaging, email, and event creation.
Screenshot of Thunderbird's new addressbook.
Screenshot of the new import and export wizards in Thunderbird.
NEW IMPORT/EXPORT WIZARD
Thunderbird 102 makes it quick and simple to move your accounts and data around. The new step-by-step wizard provides a guided experience for importing all that data that’s important to you. We’ve also taken extra precautions to ensure that no data is accidentally duplicated in your profile after an import. Moving from Outlook, SeaMonkey, or another Thunderbird installation is easier than ever. No add-ons required!
NEW SPACES TOOLBAR
Thunderbird 102 makes navigating the application more intuitive thanks to the the new Spaces Toolbar. Move between all of your activities with ease, whether it’s managing email, working with contacts through the awesome new address book, using the calendar and tasks functionality, chat, and even add-ons! If you want to save screen real estate, the Spaces Toolbar can be dismissed, and you can instead navigate the different activities Thunderbird offers with the new Pinned Spaces tab.
Screenshot showing the new matrix chat in Thunderbird.
Screenshot of the new spaces toolbar in Thunderbird.
NEW MATRIX CHAT SUPPORT
Thunderbird 102 offers a new way to chat privately and securely with your colleagues, friends, and family. We’ve added support for the open-source, decentralized chat protocol Matrix, and it’s usable right out of the box! (As always, we welcome your feedback since it’s an evolving service.)
OTHER NOTABLE CHANGES
There are many other big changes that make Thunderbird 102 a very large release including:
• New Icons and Default Folder Colors
• Use Thunderbird without an email account (for example, as an RSS reader)
• Numerous OpenPGP improvements
• CalendarLocal parser converted to javascript
• Today Pane calendar UI refresh
• POP3 implemented in javascript
• Account settings moved to macOS application menu
• Plus: Application-wide font size control, Theme fixes, FileLink fixes, Accessibility fixes, improved vCard integration, improved calendar startup performance, Calendar fixes including correct order of week view headers and days for right to left locales.
You can see details of all our changes in the release notes for Thunderbird 102.0 and up.
THUNDERBIRD IS FUNDED BY USERS LIKE YOU
Thunderbird is both free and freedom respecting, but we’re also completely funded by donations! Help us sustain the project and continue to improve.
 DONATE
JOIN OUR NEWSLETTER
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