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NVDA 2021.3, Still no NLS E-Reader listed in the list of braille displays to choose from, what a bummer.

Shawn
 

Hi, the library swore up and down when I got the E-Reader that NLS E-reader  would be available in NVDA’s list of  braille displays, so I was hoping with the NVDA update it would finally appear, no dice. Anyone know what’s up with that? I can’t get on the mailing list for the E-Reader at all, so trying here again. I tried BRLTTY a couple months ago but it was useless. The reader refused to recognize it at all. If I set braille to automatic, standard hid display or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch the reader just sits there with please wait forever. It used to actually show me braille when I chose automatic or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch, but the keys on the e-reader would not advance to the next line in the document at all. They do so with the IPhone. I’ve tried with Bluetooth and USB with the same result.

Shawn Klein

 

 

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Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not sure - I don't have a unit to test, but the NLS eReader is listed in the NVDA user guide under the HumanWare Brailliant BI/B Series / BrailleNote Touch section: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#HumanWareBrailliant  Perhaps you need to set NVDA to use a Humanware display?

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 6:21 AM Shawn via groups.io <kb7clx=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi, the library swore up and down when I got the E-Reader that NLS E-reader  would be available in NVDA’s list of  braille displays, so I was hoping with the NVDA update it would finally appear, no dice. Anyone know what’s up with that? I can’t get on the mailing list for the E-Reader at all, so trying here again. I tried BRLTTY a couple months ago but it was useless. The reader refused to recognize it at all. If I set braille to automatic, standard hid display or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch the reader just sits there with please wait forever. It used to actually show me braille when I chose automatic or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch, but the keys on the e-reader would not advance to the next line in the document at all. They do so with the IPhone. I’ve tried with Bluetooth and USB with the same result.

Shawn Klein

 

 

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Quentin Christensen
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Shawn
 

If I set it to Automatic, it shows HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series is loaded, if I set it to HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series  directly it says error, the braille display could not be loaded. When set to automatic it does send braille to the display but completely ignores any commands coming from the display. That means I can only read half of each line with the display, changing tether options doesn’t change this. I also can’t type anything from the display or route the cursor. It talks about connecting via USB with the protocol set to HumanWare, but nothing about Bluetooth. And beyond setting the display to Brailliant BI/B series/braille note touch  I can find nowhere in the guide or in the braille settings to set the protocol so that it will accept commands from the display. But at least now I know it’s supposed to be set to Brailliant BI/B series and not some nonexistent missing nls e-reader, not that that changes anything. Before I updated I was able to set it to HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series  directly with the same results, NVDA ignored any input from the display, but sent braille to it. It says the nls E-reader doesn’t require any special drivers to be installed. I wish it did, because maybe such a driver would tell NVDA to accept input from the display lol. I suspect it’s one of those situations where it works on some systems but not others until they’ve worked out the bugs. At least now I know it just isn’t going to work on my system, and not because there’s a setting missing.

Shawn Klein

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3, Still no NLS E-Reader listed in the list of braille displays to choose from, what a bummer.

 

I'm not sure - I don't have a unit to test, but the NLS eReader is listed in the NVDA user guide under the HumanWare Brailliant BI/B Series / BrailleNote Touch section: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#HumanWareBrailliant  Perhaps you need to set NVDA to use a Humanware display?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 6:21 AM Shawn via groups.io <kb7clx=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi, the library swore up and down when I got the E-Reader that NLS E-reader  would be available in NVDA’s list of  braille displays, so I was hoping with the NVDA update it would finally appear, no dice. Anyone know what’s up with that? I can’t get on the mailing list for the E-Reader at all, so trying here again. I tried BRLTTY a couple months ago but it was useless. The reader refused to recognize it at all. If I set braille to automatic, standard hid display or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch the reader just sits there with please wait forever. It used to actually show me braille when I chose automatic or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch, but the keys on the e-reader would not advance to the next line in the document at all. They do so with the IPhone. I’ve tried with Bluetooth and USB with the same result.

Shawn Klein

 

 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 
Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Shawn,

That's all good information.  It would be worth following up with NLS and Humanware.  I will contact them as well, but it would be worth you also contacting them.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM Shawn via groups.io <kb7clx=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

If I set it to Automatic, it shows HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series is loaded, if I set it to HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series  directly it says error, the braille display could not be loaded. When set to automatic it does send braille to the display but completely ignores any commands coming from the display. That means I can only read half of each line with the display, changing tether options doesn’t change this. I also can’t type anything from the display or route the cursor. It talks about connecting via USB with the protocol set to HumanWare, but nothing about Bluetooth. And beyond setting the display to Brailliant BI/B series/braille note touch  I can find nowhere in the guide or in the braille settings to set the protocol so that it will accept commands from the display. But at least now I know it’s supposed to be set to Brailliant BI/B series and not some nonexistent missing nls e-reader, not that that changes anything. Before I updated I was able to set it to HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series  directly with the same results, NVDA ignored any input from the display, but sent braille to it. It says the nls E-reader doesn’t require any special drivers to be installed. I wish it did, because maybe such a driver would tell NVDA to accept input from the display lol. I suspect it’s one of those situations where it works on some systems but not others until they’ve worked out the bugs. At least now I know it just isn’t going to work on my system, and not because there’s a setting missing.

Shawn Klein

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3, Still no NLS E-Reader listed in the list of braille displays to choose from, what a bummer.

 

I'm not sure - I don't have a unit to test, but the NLS eReader is listed in the NVDA user guide under the HumanWare Brailliant BI/B Series / BrailleNote Touch section: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#HumanWareBrailliant  Perhaps you need to set NVDA to use a Humanware display?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 6:21 AM Shawn via groups.io <kb7clx=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi, the library swore up and down when I got the E-Reader that NLS E-reader  would be available in NVDA’s list of  braille displays, so I was hoping with the NVDA update it would finally appear, no dice. Anyone know what’s up with that? I can’t get on the mailing list for the E-Reader at all, so trying here again. I tried BRLTTY a couple months ago but it was useless. The reader refused to recognize it at all. If I set braille to automatic, standard hid display or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch the reader just sits there with please wait forever. It used to actually show me braille when I chose automatic or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch, but the keys on the e-reader would not advance to the next line in the document at all. They do so with the IPhone. I’ve tried with Bluetooth and USB with the same result.

Shawn Klein

 

 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Brian Sackrider
 

    This just proves my point that Nls should let more of us be bada testersso they will be able to find more bugs or problems that need to be fixt before the final release.  This is why I like Nvda is that anyone can test all bada versions if they chose to do so.  The greater number of testers that you have will means that problems can be found and fixt before the final release.  Nls needs to take a lesson from Nvda and do it the same way.  I would Nls to come up with an Nls insider program similar to Microsoft windows insider program.  I did email Nls and told them that if they do come up with such a program then sign me up.

Brian Sackrider

On 12/8/2021 9:58 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

If I set it to Automatic, it shows HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series is loaded, if I set it to HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series  directly it says error, the braille display could not be loaded. When set to automatic it does send braille to the display but completely ignores any commands coming from the display. That means I can only read half of each line with the display, changing tether options doesn’t change this. I also can’t type anything from the display or route the cursor. It talks about connecting via USB with the protocol set to HumanWare, but nothing about Bluetooth. And beyond setting the display to Brailliant BI/B series/braille note touch  I can find nowhere in the guide or in the braille settings to set the protocol so that it will accept commands from the display. But at least now I know it’s supposed to be set to Brailliant BI/B series and not some nonexistent missing nls e-reader, not that that changes anything. Before I updated I was able to set it to HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series  directly with the same results, NVDA ignored any input from the display, but sent braille to it. It says the nls E-reader doesn’t require any special drivers to be installed. I wish it did, because maybe such a driver would tell NVDA to accept input from the display lol. I suspect it’s one of those situations where it works on some systems but not others until they’ve worked out the bugs. At least now I know it just isn’t going to work on my system, and not because there’s a setting missing.

Shawn Klein

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3, Still no NLS E-Reader listed in the list of braille displays to choose from, what a bummer.

 

I'm not sure - I don't have a unit to test, but the NLS eReader is listed in the NVDA user guide under the HumanWare Brailliant BI/B Series / BrailleNote Touch section: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#HumanWareBrailliant  Perhaps you need to set NVDA to use a Humanware display?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 6:21 AM Shawn via groups.io <kb7clx=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi, the library swore up and down when I got the E-Reader that NLS E-reader  would be available in NVDA’s list of  braille displays, so I was hoping with the NVDA update it would finally appear, no dice. Anyone know what’s up with that? I can’t get on the mailing list for the E-Reader at all, so trying here again. I tried BRLTTY a couple months ago but it was useless. The reader refused to recognize it at all. If I set braille to automatic, standard hid display or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch the reader just sits there with please wait forever. It used to actually show me braille when I chose automatic or HumanWare Brailliant BI/B series / BrailleNote Touch, but the keys on the e-reader would not advance to the next line in the document at all. They do so with the IPhone. I’ve tried with Bluetooth and USB with the same result.

Shawn Klein

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 
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