NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


Chris Smart
 

I don’t know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.

 

So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.

 

Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your speech synthesizer.

 

That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I’d get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration. (grin)

 

Chris

 


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What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces of software out there to receive and transmit it?

I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the text, as I'm sure you are aware.
Brian

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Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris


Chris Smart
 

Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the idea.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
Brian

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Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.)  Now just imagine doing this: to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would be.  Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military has quit using it years ago.

On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the idea.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: August 12, 2022 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
Brian

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Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris


















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Gene
 

I just checked.  I didn't read any of the information but here is an article about programs that convert text to Morse Code and the other way around.
https://www.technospot.net/blogs/create-morse-code-from-text-morse-text/

I would imagine a search such as programs convert text to Morse Code would give more results.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.)  Now just imagine doing this: to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would be.  Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military has quit using it years ago.


On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the idea.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: August 12, 2022 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

  I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

  There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
  Brian

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Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris























Gene
 

I just read the article.  Unfortunately, the programs discussed are all apps for smart phones.  But if you want to use a smart phone for this purpose, you may find something you like.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:24 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just checked.  I didn't read any of the information but here is an article about programs that convert text to Morse Code and the other way around.
https://www.technospot.net/blogs/create-morse-code-from-text-morse-text/

I would imagine a search such as programs convert text to Morse Code would give more results.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.)  Now just imagine doing this: to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would be.  Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military has quit using it years ago.


On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the idea.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
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Sent: August 12, 2022 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

  I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

  There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
  Brian

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From: "Chris Smart" <ve3rwj@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris
























Shawn
 

The only practical and not just fun for hams reason to do this would be as a temporary alternative for the profoundly deaf-blind when their braille display stops working with NVDA. But how many of them know Morse? Probably an extremely small number lol. scenario: braille display doesn't respond. User uses QWERTY keyboard and launches CW addon via shortcut. Puts hand on speaker and navigates, very, very, s's's's's's's's'sl'l'l'l'l'l'l'l'l'low'ow'ow'ow'ow'ow'ow'ow'l'l'l'l'l'l'leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, using Morse output until they solve the braille issue.

Shawn Klein

On 8/12/2022 12:34 PM, Gene wrote:
I just read the article.  Unfortunately, the programs discussed are all apps for smart phones.  But if you want to use a smart phone for this purpose, you may find something you like.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:24 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just checked.  I didn't read any of the information but here is an article about programs that convert text to Morse Code and the other way around.
https://www.technospot.net/blogs/create-morse-code-from-text-morse-text/

I would imagine a search such as programs convert text to Morse Code would give more results.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.)  Now just imagine doing this: to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would be.  Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military has quit using it years ago.


On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the idea.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account via groups.io
Sent: August 12, 2022 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

  I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

  There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
  Brian

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From: "Chris Smart" <ve3rwj@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris
























Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Here is what  a Google search brought up for free Morse code practice software.
This is just the first few.

Software/Morse Code Training - The DXZone
https://www.dxzone.com › catalog › Morse_Code_Trai...
About this Result
CW Trainer - Mose Trainer by G4FON is a free windows morse code training program developed using the Koch method. Sends words simulating real morse code ...

CW Training Programs - QSL.net
https://www.qsl.net › cw_soft
About this Result
AA9PW Code Practice Site Web browser ; AE0S Claus' Morse Code Trainer Android - Google Play App ; Code Quick Learn Morse code by associating the letters with easy ...

CW Teacher by N3FJP - N3FJP's Amateur Radio Software
http://www.n3fjp.com › cwteacher
About this Result
This program will teach you Morse Code at your own pace. Set the sending rate at 18 WPM or higher so that you learn the characters at a functional speed, but ...

Resources - Morse Code Ninja
https://morsecode.ninja › resources
About this Result

On 8/12/2022 1:34 PM, Gene wrote:
I just read the article.  Unfortunately, the programs discussed are all apps for smart phones.  But if you want to use a smart phone for this purpose, you may find something you like.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:24 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just checked.  I didn't read any of the information but here is an article about programs that convert text to Morse Code and the other way around.
https://www.technospot.net/blogs/create-morse-code-from-text-morse-text/

I would imagine a search such as programs convert text to Morse Code would give more results.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.)  Now just imagine doing this: to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would be.  Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military has quit using it years ago.


On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the idea.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account via groups.io
Sent: August 12, 2022 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

  I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

  There are many faster digital modes if you really want to broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
  Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day, and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and frustration.
(grin)



Chris
























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The history of these functions go way back to the Apple IE and in the UK the ZX Spectrum.
I do remember dos ones, and even some that could key a transmitter using one of the handshake lines in a serial or printer port, so no need for tones. Of course decoders also existed on the older machines via a cassette port and later on on handshaking lines again. Many modern transceivers have all of this stuff built in to their software and all you need as a keyboard. Hampod I believe do a device to give the controls of many transceivers a voice and all under control of a few buttons.
Not my end of the ship but I have listened to discussions about such stuff. Brian

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Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


I just read the article. Unfortunately, the programs discussed are all
apps for smart phones. But if you want to use a smart phone for this
purpose, you may find something you like.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:24 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just checked. I didn't read any of the information but here is an
article about programs that convert text to Morse Code and the other
way around.
https://www.technospot.net/blogs/create-morse-code-from-text-morse-text/

I would imagine a search such as programs convert text to Morse Code
would give more results.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output
would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.) Now just imagine doing this:
to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would
be. Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal
length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within
commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military has
quit using it years ago.


On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating the
idea.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail
list account via groups.io
Sent: August 12, 2022 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally
spoken as
CW

What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores
pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you don't
really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations these
days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

There are many faster digital modes if you really want to
broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <ve3rwj@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'blind hams'" <blind-hams@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken
as CW


I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA
Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a
nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and
sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go
to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make
me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day,
and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and
frustration.
(grin)



Chris
























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Um, maybe we need to resurrect the old Opticon devices.
Another idea somebody had was a kind of push on finger cover with tiny electrodes that gave tiny shocks to the fingertips to emulate Braille. I can tell you now this does not actually work, since the shocks mutually merge together destroying the pattern. However maybe this thread should go to chat now.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn via groups.io" <kb7clx@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-on Idea: Output everything normally spoken as CW


The only practical and not just fun for hams reason to do this would be
as a temporary alternative for the profoundly deaf-blind when their
braille display stops working with NVDA. But how many of them know
Morse? Probably an extremely small number lol. scenario: braille display
doesn't respond. User uses QWERTY keyboard and launches CW addon via
shortcut. Puts hand on speaker and navigates, very, very,
s's's's's's's's'sl'l'l'l'l'l'l'l'l'low'ow'ow'ow'ow'ow'ow'ow'l'l'l'l'l'l'leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
using Morse output until they solve the braille issue.

Shawn Klein

On 8/12/2022 12:34 PM, Gene wrote:
I just read the article. Unfortunately, the programs discussed are
all apps for smart phones. But if you want to use a smart phone for
this purpose, you may find something you like.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:24 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just checked. I didn't read any of the information but here is an
article about programs that convert text to Morse Code and the other
way around.
https://www.technospot.net/blogs/create-morse-code-from-text-morse-text/

I would imagine a search such as programs convert text to Morse Code
would give more results.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

You know how slow that would be? For example, a very fast CW output
would be 60 words per minute (60 WPM.) Now just imagine doing this:
to get an idea of just how slow that 'fast CW' transmission would
be. Count to your self: one one thousand
two one thousand
three one thousand and then at that pace, start speaking normal
length words such as
'Hi
Joe
How
are
you?
I
m
fine
thank
you.'

and so on.

See what I mean?

Besides, CW is only used now of days for station IDs within
commercial radio land services and on the ham bands. The military
has quit using it years ago.


On 8/12/2022 12:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Yes I am aware of all of that. Ok, never mind. LOL Just floating
the idea.



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What is the point of this though, given that there are now CW mores
pieces
of software out there to receive and transmit it?

I guess it might be nice to send word files over CW, but you
don't really
need nvda to do that. Remember a lot of Morse is abbreviations
these days
due to the slowness if its human read. I cannot imagine how
frustrating
having a screenreader outputting in Morse might be.

There are many faster digital modes if you really want to
broadcast the
text, as I'm sure you are aware.
Brian

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I don't know the first thing about Python or how to build an NVDA
Add-on.



So, very generally, what would be involved in developing an add-on
that
echoed speech output in Morse code? The audio would need to be a
nice sine
wave. Parameters like words per minute, inter-character, word, and
sentence
spacing, and the frequency of the tone could all be adjustable.



Other then that, it would just spew out whatever would normally go
to your
speech synthesizer.



That would be a real boon to people trying to learn the code. Make
me depend
on it to read an email or two, or something else of interest a day,
and I'd
get faster in a hurry out of a combination of necessity and
frustration.
(grin)



Chris