Hi there.  I’ve been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying to solve my problem, and I’m praying that one of you can help me.  I am using a “new to me” HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows 10, and the latest version of NVDA.  My issue is that, at seemingly random times, NVDA will either stop outputting speech entirely, or I’ll get maybe the first syllable of whatever it’s trying to say.  I’ve had this happen beginning with system log on, it has happened just a minute or so after logging on, and it has happened after about a half an hour of normal behavior.  Restarting NVDA doesn’t solve the problem, as the program restarts, but the same behavior takes place.  The only way I’ve been able to bring normal speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case, the same problem happens at some point, and I’ll be damned if I can figure out a commonality that could be contributing to this.  I’ve run the registry fixing tool, and even resorted to doing a system restore, to no avail.  At the moment I am at my whit’s end, so before I take a flying leap out of my third floor office window, I’m hoping someone can shed some light on the problem.  Any help will be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Hi there. I've been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying to
solve my problem, and I'm praying that one of you can help me. I am using
a
"new to me" HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows 10, and the
latest version of NVDA. My issue is that, at seemingly random times, NVDA
will either stop outputting speech entirely, or I'll get maybe the first
syllable of whatever it's trying to say. I've had this happen beginning
with system log on, it has happened just a minute or so after logging on,
and it has happened after about a half an hour of normal behavior.
Restarting NVDA doesn't solve the problem, as the program restarts, but the
same behavior takes place. The only way I've been able to bring normal
speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case, the same problem
happens at some point, and I'll be damned if I can figure out a commonality
that could be contributing to this. I've run the registry fixing tool, and
even resorted to doing a system restore, to no avail. At the moment I am
at
my whit's end, so before I take a flying leap out of my third floor office
window, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the problem. Any help
will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I have seen the similar behavior, and it seems to be worse with the latest version since I have it happen so often that I cannot even use NVDA.

Haylie

Hi there.  I’ve been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying to solve my problem, and I’m praying that one of you can help me.  I am using a “new to me” HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows 10, and the latest version of NVDA.  My issue is that, at seemingly random times, NVDA will either stop outputting speech entirely, or I’ll get maybe the first syllable of whatever it’s trying to say.  I’ve had this happen beginning with system log on, it has happened just a minute or so after logging on, and it has happened after about a half an hour of normal behavior.  Restarting NVDA doesn’t solve the problem, as the program restarts, but the same behavior takes place.  The only way I’ve been able to bring normal speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case, the same problem happens at some point, and I’ll be damned if I can figure out a commonality that could be contributing to this.  I’ve run the registry fixing tool, and even resorted to doing a system restore, to no avail.  At the moment I am at my whit’s end, so before I take a flying leap out of my third floor office window, I’m hoping someone can shed some light on the problem.  Any help will be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Is everything, and I do mean everything, including Windows, up-to-date?

NVDA:  2022.4
Windows 10 or 11:  Version 22H2
All drivers on your system, and HP Support Assistant and/or Intel Driver & Support Assistant (if you have intel cards like a WiFi/Bluetooth card on an AMD-based system) should both be used on HP systems to ensure drivers are up-to-date.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson

Hi again. I don’t know if this will shed any light on the problem, but just
to see what would happen, I borrowed another PC in my office, and did an
NVDA remote connection to my problematic laptop, with both computers in the
same room, so that I could hear the sound output from both at the same time.
I wanted to know if, when the speech was being cut off on my laptop, it was
also being cut off as the remote computer was accessing it. Sure enough,
when the speech stopped or cut off, I could hear that effect on both my
laptop, and on the PC that was remotely controlling it. Like I say, I don’t
know if that means anything, but I thought I’d point it out just in case. I
was able to get speech to work long enough to go into the sound settings,
and make certain that exclusive mode was indeed unchecked, and that no
special enhancements were turned on. I did try running NVDA on the internal
laptop soundcard, and on an external one that I happened to have with me,
and it made no difference. Also, the synthesizer being used doesn’t seem to
matter either, as both Microsoft speech and Espeak had the problem. Windows
was installed this past Friday on the laptop, and I was prompted to update
to the latest NVDA this morning, which I did, so all should be up to date
there. My next move is to try to check the drivers, if the speech will stay
on long enough.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Is everything, and I do mean everything, including Windows, up-to-date?

NVDA: 2022.4
Windows 10 or 11: Version 22H2
All drivers on your system, and HP Support Assistant
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/help/hp-support-assistant> and/or Intel
Driver <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html> &
Support Assistant (if you have intel cards like a WiFi/Bluetooth card on an
AMD-based system) should both be used on HP systems to ensure drivers are
up-to-date.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045;
Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson

Hi there.  I’ve been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying to solve my problem, and I’m praying that one of you can help me.  I am using a “new to me” HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows 10, and the latest version of NVDA.  My issue is that, at seemingly random times, NVDA will either stop outputting speech entirely, or I’ll get maybe the first syllable of whatever it’s trying to say.  I’ve had this happen beginning with system log on, it has happened just a minute or so after logging on, and it has happened after about a half an hour of normal behavior.  Restarting NVDA doesn’t solve the problem, as the program restarts, but the same behavior takes place.  The only way I’ve been able to bring normal speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case, the same problem happens at some point, and I’ll be damned if I can figure out a commonality that could be contributing to this.  I’ve run the registry fixing tool, and even resorted to doing a system restore, to no avail.  At the moment I am at my whit’s end, so before I take a flying leap out of my third floor office window, I’m hoping someone can shed some light on the problem.  Any help will be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Hi,



Have you installed Silenzio? I had a similar problem and it was solved once
I installed this app.



Thanks.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Pemberton
Sent: Tuesday, 03 January 2023 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Hi there. I've been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying to
solve my problem, and I'm praying that one of you can help me. I am using
a
"new to me" HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows 10, and the
latest version of NVDA. My issue is that, at seemingly random times, NVDA
will either stop outputting speech entirely, or I'll get maybe the first
syllable of whatever it's trying to say. I've had this happen beginning
with system log on, it has happened just a minute or so after logging on,
and it has happened after about a half an hour of normal behavior.
Restarting NVDA doesn't solve the problem, as the program restarts, but the
same behavior takes place. The only way I've been able to bring normal
speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case, the same problem
happens at some point, and I'll be damned if I can figure out a commonality
that could be contributing to this. I've run the registry fixing tool, and
even resorted to doing a system restore, to no avail. At the moment I am
at
my whit's end, so before I take a flying leap out of my third floor office
window, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the problem. Any help
will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Hi again. I don’t know if this will shed any light on the problem,
but just to see what would happen, I borrowed another PC in my office,
and did an NVDA remote connection to my problematic laptop, with both
computers in the same room, so that I could hear the sound output from both at the same time.
I wanted to know if, when the speech was being cut off on my laptop,
it was also being cut off as the remote computer was accessing it.
Sure enough, when the speech stopped or cut off, I could hear that
effect on both my laptop, and on the PC that was remotely controlling
it. Like I say, I don’t know if that means anything, but I thought
I’d point it out just in case. I was able to get speech to work long
enough to go into the sound settings, and make certain that exclusive
mode was indeed unchecked, and that no special enhancements were
turned on. I did try running NVDA on the internal laptop soundcard,
and on an external one that I happened to have with me, and it made no
difference. Also, the synthesizer being used doesn’t seem to matter
either, as both Microsoft speech and Espeak had the problem. Windows
was installed this past Friday on the laptop, and I was prompted to
update to the latest NVDA this morning, which I did, so all should be
up to date there. My next move is to try to check the drivers, if the speech will stay on long enough.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Is everything, and I do mean everything, including Windows, up-to-date?

NVDA: 2022.4
Windows 10 or 11: Version 22H2
All drivers on your system, and HP Support Assistant
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/help/hp-support-assistant> and/or Intel
Driver <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html>
& Support Assistant (if you have intel cards like a WiFi/Bluetooth
card on an AMD-based system) should both be used on HP systems to
ensure drivers are up-to-date.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson

Hi,



Have you installed Silenzio? I had a similar problem and it was solved
once I installed this app.



Thanks.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Pemberton
Sent: Tuesday, 03 January 2023 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Hi there. I've been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying
to solve my problem, and I'm praying that one of you can help me. I
am using a "new to me" HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows
10, and the latest version of NVDA. My issue is that, at seemingly
random times, NVDA will either stop outputting speech entirely, or
I'll get maybe the first syllable of whatever it's trying to say.
I've had this happen beginning with system log on, it has happened
just a minute or so after logging on, and it has happened after about
a half an hour of normal behavior.
Restarting NVDA doesn't solve the problem, as the program restarts,
but the same behavior takes place. The only way I've been able to
bring normal speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case,
the same problem happens at some point, and I'll be damned if I can
figure out a commonality that could be contributing to this. I've run
the registry fixing tool, and even resorted to doing a system restore,
to no avail. At the moment I am at my whit's end, so before I take a
flying leap out of my third floor office window, I'm hoping someone
can shed some light on the problem. Any help will be most
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Narrator is not cutting off, but it is often saying, "unknown key," rather
than announcing what it should announce.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking

Does Narrator exhibit similar behavior, Jim?

On 1/3/23, Jim Pemberton <pemby@...> wrote:

Hi again. I don’t know if this will shed any light on the problem,
but just to see what would happen, I borrowed another PC in my office,
and did an NVDA remote connection to my problematic laptop, with both
computers in the same room, so that I could hear the sound output from
both at the same time.
I wanted to know if, when the speech was being cut off on my laptop,
it was also being cut off as the remote computer was accessing it.
Sure enough, when the speech stopped or cut off, I could hear that
effect on both my laptop, and on the PC that was remotely controlling
it. Like I say, I don’t know if that means anything, but I thought
I’d point it out just in case. I was able to get speech to work long
enough to go into the sound settings, and make certain that exclusive
mode was indeed unchecked, and that no special enhancements were
turned on. I did try running NVDA on the internal laptop soundcard,
and on an external one that I happened to have with me, and it made no
difference. Also, the synthesizer being used doesn’t seem to matter
either, as both Microsoft speech and Espeak had the problem. Windows
was installed this past Friday on the laptop, and I was prompted to
update to the latest NVDA this morning, which I did, so all should be
up to date there. My next move is to try to check the drivers, if the
speech will stay on long enough.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Is everything, and I do mean everything, including Windows, up-to-date?

NVDA: 2022.4
Windows 10 or 11: Version 22H2
All drivers on your system, and HP Support Assistant
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/help/hp-support-assistant> and/or Intel
Driver <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html>
& Support Assistant (if you have intel cards like a WiFi/Bluetooth
card on an AMD-based system) should both be used on HP systems to
ensure drivers are up-to-date.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org Also check out
brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

O, brother. HP has a horrible habit of hijacking the keyboard. I think
the easiest thing to do might be to plug in a USB keyboard & see if
things work better. I'm skeptical whether or not that will fix your
audio problems, though, & it'd help if the questions I posed
previously were answered.

On 1/3/23, Jim Pemberton <pemby@...> wrote:

Narrator is not cutting off, but it is often saying, "unknown key,"
rather
than announcing what it should announce.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking

Does Narrator exhibit similar behavior, Jim?

On 1/3/23, Jim Pemberton <pemby@...> wrote:

Hi again. I don’t know if this will shed any light on the problem,
but just to see what would happen, I borrowed another PC in my office,
and did an NVDA remote connection to my problematic laptop, with both
computers in the same room, so that I could hear the sound output from
both at the same time.
I wanted to know if, when the speech was being cut off on my laptop,
it was also being cut off as the remote computer was accessing it.
Sure enough, when the speech stopped or cut off, I could hear that
effect on both my laptop, and on the PC that was remotely controlling
it. Like I say, I don’t know if that means anything, but I thought
I’d point it out just in case. I was able to get speech to work long
enough to go into the sound settings, and make certain that exclusive
mode was indeed unchecked, and that no special enhancements were
turned on. I did try running NVDA on the internal laptop soundcard,
and on an external one that I happened to have with me, and it made no
difference. Also, the synthesizer being used doesn’t seem to matter
either, as both Microsoft speech and Espeak had the problem. Windows
was installed this past Friday on the laptop, and I was prompted to
update to the latest NVDA this morning, which I did, so all should be
up to date there. My next move is to try to check the drivers, if the
speech will stay on long enough.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Is everything, and I do mean everything, including Windows, up-to-date?

NVDA: 2022.4
Windows 10 or 11: Version 22H2
All drivers on your system, and HP Support Assistant
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/help/hp-support-assistant> and/or Intel
Driver <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html>
& Support Assistant (if you have intel cards like a WiFi/Bluetooth
card on an AMD-based system) should both be used on HP systems to
ensure drivers are up-to-date.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org Also check out
brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org
Also check out brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

O, brother. HP has a horrible habit of hijacking the keyboard. I think
the easiest thing to do might be to plug in a USB keyboard & see if
things work better. I'm skeptical whether or not that will fix your
audio problems, though, & it'd help if the questions I posed
previously were answered.

On 1/3/23, Jim Pemberton <pemby@...> wrote:

Narrator is not cutting off, but it is often saying, "unknown key,"
rather
than announcing what it should announce.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking

Does Narrator exhibit similar behavior, Jim?

On 1/3/23, Jim Pemberton <pemby@...> wrote:

Hi again. I don’t know if this will shed any light on the problem,
but just to see what would happen, I borrowed another PC in my
office, and did an NVDA remote connection to my problematic laptop,
with both computers in the same room, so that I could hear the sound
output from both at the same time.
I wanted to know if, when the speech was being cut off on my
laptop, it was also being cut off as the remote computer was accessing it.
Sure enough, when the speech stopped or cut off, I could hear that
effect on both my laptop, and on the PC that was remotely
controlling it. Like I say, I don’t know if that means anything,
but I thought I’d point it out just in case. I was able to get
speech to work long enough to go into the sound settings, and make
certain that exclusive mode was indeed unchecked, and that no
special enhancements were turned on. I did try running NVDA on the
internal laptop soundcard, and on an external one that I happened to
have with me, and it made no difference. Also, the synthesizer
being used doesn’t seem to matter either, as both Microsoft speech
and Espeak had the problem. Windows was installed this past Friday
on the laptop, and I was prompted to update to the latest NVDA this
morning, which I did, so all should be up to date there. My next
move is to try to check the drivers, if the speech will stay on long enough.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Is everything, and I do mean everything, including Windows, up-to-date?

NVDA: 2022.4
Windows 10 or 11: Version 22H2
All drivers on your system, and HP Support Assistant
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/help/hp-support-assistant> and/or
Intel Driver
<https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html>
& Support Assistant (if you have intel cards like a WiFi/Bluetooth
card on an AMD-based system) should both be used on HP systems to
ensure drivers are up-to-date.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org Also check out
brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org Also check out
brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

That is the other thing, Jim--what sort of audio setup do you have
there at your office, ie, are you using wired headphones, bluetooth,
uSB, & if wired and non-usb, what jack is the audio connected to? If
using headphones, have you tried a different pair?

On 1/3/23, Deenadayalan Moodley <deenadayalan.moodley@...> wrote:

Hi,



Have you installed Silenzio? I had a similar problem and it was solved once
I installed this app.



Thanks.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Pemberton
Sent: Tuesday, 03 January 2023 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Hi there. I've been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying to
solve my problem, and I'm praying that one of you can help me. I am using
a
"new to me" HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows 10, and the
latest version of NVDA. My issue is that, at seemingly random times, NVDA
will either stop outputting speech entirely, or I'll get maybe the first
syllable of whatever it's trying to say. I've had this happen beginning
with system log on, it has happened just a minute or so after logging on,
and it has happened after about a half an hour of normal behavior.
Restarting NVDA doesn't solve the problem, as the program restarts, but the
same behavior takes place. The only way I've been able to bring normal
speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case, the same problem
happens at some point, and I'll be damned if I can figure out a commonality
that could be contributing to this. I've run the registry fixing tool, and
even resorted to doing a system restore, to no avail. At the moment I am
at
my whit's end, so before I take a flying leap out of my third floor office
window, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the problem. Any help
will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org
Also check out brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

Hi,



Have you installed Silenzio? I had a similar problem and it was solved
once I installed this app.



Thanks.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Pemberton
Sent: Tuesday, 03 January 2023 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA randomly stops speaking



Hi there. I've been pulling my hair out for the past 4 hours, trying
to solve my problem, and I'm praying that one of you can help me. I
am using a "new to me" HP laptop, with a fresh installation of Windows
10, and the latest version of NVDA. My issue is that, at seemingly
random times, NVDA will either stop outputting speech entirely, or
I'll get maybe the first syllable of whatever it's trying to say.
I've had this happen beginning with system log on, it has happened
just a minute or so after logging on, and it has happened after about
a half an hour of normal behavior.
Restarting NVDA doesn't solve the problem, as the program restarts,
but the same behavior takes place. The only way I've been able to
bring normal speech back is to restart the machine, but in each case,
the same problem happens at some point, and I'll be damned if I can
figure out a commonality that could be contributing to this. I've run
the registry fixing tool, and even resorted to doing a system restore,
to no avail. At the moment I am at my whit's end, so before I take a
flying leap out of my third floor office window, I'm hoping someone
can shed some light on the problem. Any help will be most
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 04:37 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

touch screen that even breathing near it operates pop up windows of
unknown origin

-
Why not disable the touchscreen in Device Manager for the duration of your
use?  You can turn touchscreens on or off with the flip of the metaphorical
switch.  Whether they're on or off has no impact on the actual display
itself.

I have a touchscreen laptop I can check on if you need the exact entry in
Device Manager identified.  It's been the same across brands, in my
experience.  I seem to recall it being under HID devices.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045;
Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 04:37 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

touch screen that even breathing near it operates pop up windows of
unknown origin

-
Why not disable the touchscreen in Device Manager for the duration of
your use? You can turn touchscreens on or off with the flip of the
metaphorical switch. Whether they're on or off has no impact on the
actual display itself.

I have a touchscreen laptop I can check on if you need the exact entry
in Device Manager identified. It's been the same across brands, in my
experience. I seem to recall it being under HID devices.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build
19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson