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NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word


 

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Gene
 

I turned off all the settings I thought might cause this behavior but when I open up an editable document, I still hear document editable. You may need to use the speech dictionary to stop this behavior.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time
they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office
Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to
make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that
message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Gene
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

I turned off all the settings I thought might cause this behavior but when I
open up an editable document, I still hear document editable. You may need
to use the speech dictionary to stop this behavior.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time
they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office
Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to
make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that
message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

--
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Dan Miner
 

I have gotten that behavior in a couple of ways. When reading temporary files from say an email (using Open from a context menu) or when there is an embedded view from another application (Excel is always a candidate for this problem with protected cells). So, perhaps your friend can note the specific source and way he or she is accessing the document?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

These two messages may solve the problem.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/nvda_saying_edit_before/32326116?p=

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

I turned off all the settings I thought might cause this behavior but when I open up an editable document, I still hear document editable. You may need to use the speech dictionary to stop this behavior.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


 

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:
Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong
On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles