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Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can
someone explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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Hi, Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind allday Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 4:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode Hello guys, I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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Well, I thought that screen review mode meant that a page allowed
you to activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can press “K” for it to pause and play.
Hi, Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap. Cheers, Joseph Hello guys, I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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Hi, Ah, I see. What you are describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web application you are using. For example, pressing K while playing a YouTube video will pause the video if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to the next link if browse mode is active. Screen review, on the other hand, will let you review the contents of an app’s window. For example, under older programs, activating screen review mode will let you see the contents of the app that aren’t accessible with keyboard commands. These days screen review would not work properly in newer apps but you can find out the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind allday Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode Well, I thought that screen review mode meant that a page allowed you to activate certain shortcuts that a page had. For example, on YouTube you can press “K” for it to pause and play. Hi, Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap. Cheers, Joseph Hello guys, I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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Sarah k Alawami
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
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On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi, Ah, I see. What you are describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web application you are using. For example, pressing K while playing a YouTube video will pause the video if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to the next link if browse mode is active. Screen review, on the other hand, will let you review the contents of an app’s window. For example, under older programs, activating screen review mode will let you see the contents of the app that aren’t accessible with keyboard commands. These days screen review would not work properly in newer apps but you can find out the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R). Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode Well, I thought that screen review mode meant that a page allowed you to activate certain shortcuts that a page had. For example, on YouTube you can press “K” for it to pause and play. Hi, Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap. Cheers, Joseph Hello guys, I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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Chris Smart
Have you tried the User Guide or the Basic Training module?
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On 2021-01-22 7:45 p.m., Blind allday
wrote:
Hello
guys,
I
think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can
someone explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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Chris Smart
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen
review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with
the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and
click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go
to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the
channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and
more visit my main lbry page and my tffp
lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the
podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are
describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key
you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web
application you are using. For example, pressing K
while playing a YouTube video will pause the video
if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to
the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on
the other hand, will let you review the contents of
an app’s window. For example, under older programs,
activating screen review mode will let you see the
contents of the app that aren’t accessible with
keyboard commands. These days screen review would
not work properly in newer apps but you can find out
the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I thought that screen
review mode meant that a page allowed you to
activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can
press “K” for it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell us what
you know about screen review? That way we can
help you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I am
overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can
someone explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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I have read the user guide but it was a very brief overview of the Screen Review Mode.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:32 PM Chris Smart < ve3rwj@...> wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen
review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with
the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and
click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go
to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the
channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and
more visit my main lbry page and my tffp
lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the
podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are
describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key
you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web
application you are using. For example, pressing K
while playing a YouTube video will pause the video
if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to
the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on
the other hand, will let you review the contents of
an app’s window. For example, under older programs,
activating screen review mode will let you see the
contents of the app that aren’t accessible with
keyboard commands. These days screen review would
not work properly in newer apps but you can find out
the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I thought that screen
review mode meant that a page allowed you to
activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can
press “K” for it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell us what
you know about screen review? That way we can
help you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I am
overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can
someone explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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I don't know what you mean by over thinking. Do you know the commands? I can discuss the desktop layout but I don't use or know the laptop layout commands. Have you used the JAWS cursor? Screen review is very similar except that the movement commands are different.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 12:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Have you tried the User Guide or the Basic Training module?
On 2021-01-22 7:45 p.m., Blind allday wrote:
Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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When you are in screen review mode, you can move around the
screen and not change your place where you are working, for
example, in a word processor, you can move around and not change
the position of the cursor where you are working. Also, if you
are somewhere where you can't move around using Windows commands
such as up and down arrow, you can look at what is on the screen
in review mode. If an error message ccomes up, you can move
around it using screen review.
Don't forget to always return to object navigation mode as soon ase
you are finished working in review mode. If you don't, you may get
unexpected results.
Gene
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On 1/23/2021 1:14 AM, Blind allday wrote:
I have read the user guide but it was a very brief
overview of the Screen Review Mode.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:32
PM Chris Smart < ve3rwj@...> wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use
screen review on a lot of newer programs and
activate things with the mouse. I use screen review
to read the screen, route and click. I never if I
can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more
info go to our website.
Check out my adventures
with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here
and you can also follow us
on twitter
Our discord
is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can
buy and more visit my main
lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will
also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks
there.
Finally, to become a patron and help
support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are describing is called
“focus mode” where whatever key you press
will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web
application you are using. For example,
pressing K while playing a YouTube video
will pause the video if focus mode is on,
whereas NVDA will move you to the next link
if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on the other hand, will
let you review the contents of an app’s
window. For example, under older programs,
activating screen review mode will let you
see the contents of the app that aren’t
accessible with keyboard commands. These
days screen review would not work properly
in newer apps but you can find out the
contents of a window by doing an OCR
(NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I thought that screen review mode
meant that a page allowed you to activate
certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can press “K”
for it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell us what you know about
screen review? That way we can help
you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s
Screen Review Mode. Can someone
explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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Sarah k Alawami
Oh I know it's not, I know how to use it very well, I liken it to mac os. I just choose not to use it and use scren review on the new programs where necessary. You can hear me doing this a lot here. Just look for any video and fast forward to where I'm using tramp.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 22 Jan 2021, at 22:31, Chris Smart wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen
review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with
the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and
click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go
to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the
channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and
more visit my main lbry page and my tffp
lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the
podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are
describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key
you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web
application you are using. For example, pressing K
while playing a YouTube video will pause the video
if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to
the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on
the other hand, will let you review the contents of
an app’s window. For example, under older programs,
activating screen review mode will let you see the
contents of the app that aren’t accessible with
keyboard commands. These days screen review would
not work properly in newer apps but you can find out
the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I thought that screen
review mode meant that a page allowed you to
activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can
press “K” for it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell us what
you know about screen review? That way we can
help you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I am
overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can
someone explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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|
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Sarah k Alawami
I don't ever ever return to object review mode. and I never get odd results. I don't really know why you keep saying that as for me it is not true. I can still use my arrows then to into an object all without switching modes.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
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On 23 Jan 2021, at 0:04, Gene wrote:
When you are in screen review mode, you can move around the
screen and not change your place where you are working, for
example, in a word processor, you can move around and not change
the position of the cursor where you are working. Also, if you
are somewhere where you can't move around using Windows commands
such as up and down arrow, you can look at what is on the screen
in review mode. If an error message ccomes up, you can move
around it using screen review.
Don't forget to always return to object navigation mode as soon ase
you are finished working in review mode. If you don't, you may get
unexpected results.
Gene
On 1/23/2021 1:14 AM, Blind allday wrote:
I have read the user guide but it was a very brief
overview of the Screen Review Mode.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:32
PM Chris Smart < ve3rwj@...> wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use
screen review on a lot of newer programs and
activate things with the mouse. I use screen review
to read the screen, route and click. I never if I
can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more
info go to our website.
Check out my adventures
with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here
and you can also follow us
on twitter
Our discord
is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can
buy and more visit my main
lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will
also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks
there.
Finally, to become a patron and help
support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are describing is called
“focus mode” where whatever key you press
will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web
application you are using. For example,
pressing K while playing a YouTube video
will pause the video if focus mode is on,
whereas NVDA will move you to the next link
if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on the other hand, will
let you review the contents of an app’s
window. For example, under older programs,
activating screen review mode will let you
see the contents of the app that aren’t
accessible with keyboard commands. These
days screen review would not work properly
in newer apps but you can find out the
contents of a window by doing an OCR
(NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I thought that screen review mode
meant that a page allowed you to activate
certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can press “K”
for it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell us what you know about
screen review? That way we can help
you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s
Screen Review Mode. Can someone
explain it to me? Or point me to
where I can learn more about it.
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Chris Smart
Tramp? LOL
Biting my tongue over here LOL
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On 2021-01-23 2:01 p.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Oh I know it's not, I know how to use it very
well, I liken it to mac os. I just choose not to use it and
use scren review on the new programs where necessary. You
can hear me doing this a lot here.
Just look for any video and fast forward to where I'm using
tramp.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go
to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the
channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and
more visit my main lbry page and my tffp
lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the
podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 22:31, Chris Smart wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah
k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use
screen review on a lot of newer programs and
activate things with the mouse. I use screen review
to read the screen, route and click. I never if I
can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more
info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow
machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you
will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can
buy and more visit my main lbry page and
my tffp lbry page You will
also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks
there.
Finally, to become a patron and help
support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are
describing is called “focus mode” where
whatever key you press will be dealt not by
NVDA but by the web application you are
using. For example, pressing K while playing
a YouTube video will pause the video if
focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you
to the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen
review, on the other hand, will let you
review the contents of an app’s window. For
example, under older programs, activating
screen review mode will let you see the
contents of the app that aren’t accessible
with keyboard commands. These days screen
review would not work properly in newer apps
but you can find out the contents of a
window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I
thought that screen review mode meant that a
page allowed you to activate certain
shortcuts that a page had.
For
example, on YouTube you can press “K” for
it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell
us what you know about screen review?
That way we can help you fill in the
gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I
am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review
Mode. Can someone explain it to me?
Or point me to where I can learn
more about it.
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Sarah k Alawami
here's more info on FsTramp. basically it is a tool we use for now to fly. but that is beyond the scope of this list. if you have any quesiotns please ask me but not here.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 23 Jan 2021, at 11:29, Chris Smart wrote:
Tramp? LOL
Biting my tongue over here LOL
On 2021-01-23 2:01 p.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Oh I know it's not, I know how to use it very
well, I liken it to mac os. I just choose not to use it and
use scren review on the new programs where necessary. You
can hear me doing this a lot here.
Just look for any video and fast forward to where I'm using
tramp.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go
to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the
channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and
more visit my main lbry page and my tffp
lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the
podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 22:31, Chris Smart wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah
k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use
screen review on a lot of newer programs and
activate things with the mouse. I use screen review
to read the screen, route and click. I never if I
can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more
info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow
machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you
will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can
buy and more visit my main lbry page and
my tffp lbry page You will
also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks
there.
Finally, to become a patron and help
support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are
describing is called “focus mode” where
whatever key you press will be dealt not by
NVDA but by the web application you are
using. For example, pressing K while playing
a YouTube video will pause the video if
focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you
to the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen
review, on the other hand, will let you
review the contents of an app’s window. For
example, under older programs, activating
screen review mode will let you see the
contents of the app that aren’t accessible
with keyboard commands. These days screen
review would not work properly in newer apps
but you can find out the contents of a
window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I
thought that screen review mode meant that a
page allowed you to activate certain
shortcuts that a page had.
For
example, on YouTube you can press “K” for
it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell
us what you know about screen review?
That way we can help you fill in the
gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I
am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review
Mode. Can someone explain it to me?
Or point me to where I can learn
more about it.
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It may be that if you only use the ways of moving and reading the current line that don't involve object navigation that you won't get unexpected results. But if you use commands like numpad 8, read current line of current object, etc. you will get unexpected results unless you change to object review. I don't know how many people use these commands but I find them much more convenient. I would far rather use numpad 8 to check a current line than NVDA key up arrow. Numpad 8 is a one hand command. And when I close a message in the e-mail programs I use, delete a message and am now on the next one in the list, I use numpad 8 to read the headers without a lot of extraneous speech. That is much more convenient than using NVDA key up arrow to read the current line that way. So perhaps I should alter what I say when I discuss this.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
I don't ever ever return to object review mode. and I never get odd results. I don't really know why you keep saying that as for me it is not true. I can still use my arrows then to into an object all without switching modes.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
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On 23 Jan 2021, at 0:04, Gene wrote:
When you are in screen review mode, you can move around the screen and not change your place where you are working, for example, in a word processor, you can move around and not change the position of the cursor where you are working. Also, if you are somewhere where you can't move around using Windows commands such as up and down arrow, you can look at what is on the screen in review mode. If an error message ccomes up, you can move around it using screen review.
Don't forget to always return to object navigation mode as soon ase you are finished working in review mode. If you don't, you may get unexpected results.
Gene
On 1/23/2021 1:14 AM, Blind allday wrote:
I have read the user guide but it was a very brief overview of the Screen Review Mode.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:32 PM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
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On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web application you are using. For example, pressing K while playing a YouTube video will pause the video if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on the other hand, will let you review the contents of an app’s window. For example, under older programs, activating screen review mode will let you see the contents of the app that aren’t accessible with keyboard commands. These days screen review would not work properly in newer apps but you can find out the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Well, I thought that screen review mode meant that a page allowed you to activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can press “K” for it to pause and play.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:49 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 4:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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Sarah k Alawami
Actually in my case I don't need to go into object mode. I just use screen review, get to where i want, then use object left, right, read the current one, copy to the clipboard if I need to and, it's done. In fact most of the time if I use current line, I can read the current object or objects depending on the layout of the screen.
--
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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
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On 23 Jan 2021, at 11:55, Gene wrote:
It may be that if you only use the ways of moving and reading the current line that don't involve object navigation that you won't get unexpected results. But if you use commands like numpad 8, read current line of current object, etc. you will get unexpected results unless you change to object review. I don't know how many people use these commands but I find them much more convenient. I would far rather use numpad 8 to check a current line than NVDA key up arrow. Numpad 8 is a one hand command. And when I close a message in the e-mail programs I use, delete a message and am now on the next one in the list, I use numpad 8 to read the headers without a lot of extraneous speech. That is much more convenient than using NVDA key up arrow to read the current line that way. So perhaps I should alter what I say when I discuss this.
Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
I don't ever ever return to object review mode. and I never get odd results. I don't really know why you keep saying that as for me it is not true. I can still use my arrows then to into an object all without switching modes.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 23 Jan 2021, at 0:04, Gene wrote:
When you are in screen review mode, you can move around the screen and not change your place where you are working, for example, in a word processor, you can move around and not change the position of the cursor where you are working. Also, if you are somewhere where you can't move around using Windows commands such as up and down arrow, you can look at what is on the screen in review mode. If an error message ccomes up, you can move around it using screen review.
Don't forget to always return to object navigation mode as soon ase you are finished working in review mode. If you don't, you may get unexpected results.
Gene
On 1/23/2021 1:14 AM, Blind allday wrote:
I have read the user guide but it was a very brief overview of the Screen Review Mode.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:32 PM Chris Smart ve3rwj@... wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web application you are using. For example, pressing K while playing a YouTube video will pause the video if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on the other hand, will let you review the contents of an app’s window. For example, under older programs, activating screen review mode will let you see the contents of the app that aren’t accessible with keyboard commands. These days screen review would not work properly in newer apps but you can find out the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Well, I thought that screen review mode meant that a page allowed you to activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can press “K” for it to pause and play.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:49 PM Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@... wrote:
Hi,
Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 4:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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Screen review isn't the same as reading by object. If you open a document in Notepad, and I suspect a word processor in general, that whole document is one object. If you are in object review, you can move through the entire document if you wish. If you are in screen review, you can only move through what is on screen. Screen review reviews what is on screen. Object navigation allows you to move through various objects, on and off screen and its at times, the only way to work with a program.
You aren't reading this or that in an object when you use screen review. You are reading anything on screen.
If you haven't used a program where the only way to work with it is by object navigation, you may not realize the importance of the ability. Many people may not have to use object navigation much, if at all, many people find it helpful, important, or essential if it is important to them to use an application that requires. it.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Actually in my case I don't need to go into object mode. I just use screen review, get to where i want, then use object left, right, read the current one, copy to the clipboard if I need to and, it's done. In fact most of the time if I use current line, I can read the current object or objects depending on the layout of the screen.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 23 Jan 2021, at 11:55, Gene wrote:
It may be that if you only use the ways of moving and reading the current line that don't involve object navigation that you won't get unexpected results. But if you use commands like numpad 8, read current line of current object, etc. you will get unexpected results unless you change to object review. I don't know how many people use these commands but I find them much more convenient. I would far rather use numpad 8 to check a current line than NVDA key up arrow. Numpad 8 is a one hand command. And when I close a message in the e-mail programs I use, delete a message and am now on the next one in the list, I use numpad 8 to read the headers without a lot of extraneous speech. That is much more convenient than using NVDA key up arrow to read the current line that way. So perhaps I should alter what I say when I discuss this.
Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
I don't ever ever return to object review mode. and I never get odd results. I don't really know why you keep saying that as for me it is not true. I can still use my arrows then to into an object all without switching modes.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 23 Jan 2021, at 0:04, Gene wrote:
When you are in screen review mode, you can move around the screen and not change your place where you are working, for example, in a word processor, you can move around and not change the position of the cursor where you are working. Also, if you are somewhere where you can't move around using Windows commands such as up and down arrow, you can look at what is on the screen in review mode. If an error message ccomes up, you can move around it using screen review.
Don't forget to always return to object navigation mode as soon ase you are finished working in review mode. If you don't, you may get unexpected results.
Gene
On 1/23/2021 1:14 AM, Blind allday wrote:
I have read the user guide but it was a very brief overview of the Screen Review Mode.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:32 PM Chris Smart ve3rwj@winsystem.org wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use screen review on a lot of newer programs and activate things with the mouse. I use screen review to read the screen, route and click. I never if I can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are describing is called “focus mode” where whatever key you press will be dealt not by NVDA but by the web application you are using. For example, pressing K while playing a YouTube video will pause the video if focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you to the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen review, on the other hand, will let you review the contents of an app’s window. For example, under older programs, activating screen review mode will let you see the contents of the app that aren’t accessible with keyboard commands. These days screen review would not work properly in newer apps but you can find out the contents of a window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Well, I thought that screen review mode meant that a page allowed you to activate certain shortcuts that a page had.
For example, on YouTube you can press “K” for it to pause and play.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:49 PM Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Can you tell us what you know about screen review? That way we can help you fill in the gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Blind allday
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 4:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Screen Review Mode
Hello guys,
I think I am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review Mode. Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to where I can learn more about it.
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I useto use a program called cq 100 it is asimulated hfham
radio program. I would use screen review mode to read the call
signs of who was talking I was not able to access this information
with out using screen review. I only wanted to read this
information not to interact with it. I would read the call sign
their location and some information about their station. I no
longer have the program but thanks to screen review I was able
toknowwho was talking if they identified or not. The program had
all of themajor hf bands and cost 39 dollars per year.
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Brian Sackrider
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On 1/23/2021 2:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami
wrote:
Oh I know it's not, I know how to use it very
well, I liken it to mac os. I just choose not to use it and
use scren review on the new programs where necessary. You
can hear me doing this a lot here.
Just look for any video and fast forward to where I'm using
tramp.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go
to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the
channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and
more visit my main lbry page and my tffp
lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the
podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 22:31, Chris Smart wrote:
If you mean ObjectNAV, it's not that scary.
On 2021-01-22 8:56 p.m., Sarah
k Alawami wrote:
Actually tha'ts not quite true. I use
screen review on a lot of newer programs and
activate things with the mouse. I use screen review
to read the screen, route and click. I never if I
can help it use object review.
Take care
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more
info go to our website.
Check out my adventures with a shadow
machine.
to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter
Our discord is where you
will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can
buy and more visit my main lbry page and
my tffp lbry page You will
also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks
there.
Finally, to become a patron and help
support the podcast go here
On 22 Jan 2021, at 17:22, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi,
Ah, I see.
What you are
describing is called “focus mode” where
whatever key you press will be dealt not by
NVDA but by the web application you are
using. For example, pressing K while playing
a YouTube video will pause the video if
focus mode is on, whereas NVDA will move you
to the next link if browse mode is active.
Screen
review, on the other hand, will let you
review the contents of an app’s window. For
example, under older programs, activating
screen review mode will let you see the
contents of the app that aren’t accessible
with keyboard commands. These days screen
review would not work properly in newer apps
but you can find out the contents of a
window by doing an OCR (NVDA+R).
Cheers,
Joseph
Well, I
thought that screen review mode meant that a
page allowed you to activate certain
shortcuts that a page had.
For
example, on YouTube you can press “K” for
it to pause and play.
Hi,
Can you tell
us what you know about screen review?
That way we can help you fill in the
gap.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hello guys,
I think I
am overthinking NVDA’s Screen Review
Mode. Can someone explain it to me?
Or point me to where I can learn
more about it.
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