NVDA Startup


Howard Traxler
 

After installation, NVDA won't start.  Wondering, does starting depend on the desktop shortcut?  If so, I don't understand the command shown in the shortcut properties:


C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r


Maybe by changing this start command I can make it start normally?


Your thoughts?  Thanks.


Howard


Gene
 

Try running it using the start menu.  Open the start menu, type nvda and if necessary, up and down arrow to the program, then press enter

You can test in that way if the program can run.

Gene

On 8/11/2022 11:58 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
After installation, NVDA won't start.  Wondering, does starting depend on the desktop shortcut?  If so, I don't understand the command shown in the shortcut properties:


C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r


Maybe by changing this start command I can make it start normally?


Your thoughts?  Thanks.


Howard









Howard Traxler
 

Thanks Gene, trying to start NVDA from the start menu simply shuts down the running portable version and stops without ...


Have to run the portable version again.


On 8/12/2022 12:09 AM, Gene wrote:
Try running it using the start menu.  Open the start menu, type nvda and if necessary, up and down arrow to the program, then press enter

You can test in that way if the program can run.

Gene

On 8/11/2022 11:58 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
After installation, NVDA won't start.  Wondering, does starting depend on the desktop shortcut?  If so, I don't understand the command shown in the shortcut properties:


C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r


Maybe by changing this start command I can make it start normally?


Your thoughts?  Thanks.


Howard









Gene
 

I'm not sure what the problem is.  I think the first thing to do is to uninstall, then reinstall the program.

Gene

On 8/12/2022 12:20 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Thanks Gene, trying to start NVDA from the start menu simply shuts down the running portable version and stops without ...


Have to run the portable version again.


On 8/12/2022 12:09 AM, Gene wrote:
Try running it using the start menu.  Open the start menu, type nvda and if necessary, up and down arrow to the program, then press enter

You can test in that way if the program can run.

Gene

On 8/11/2022 11:58 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
After installation, NVDA won't start.  Wondering, does starting depend on the desktop shortcut?  If so, I don't understand the command shown in the shortcut properties:


C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r


Maybe by changing this start command I can make it start normally?


Your thoughts?  Thanks.


Howard










Sean Budd (NV Access)
 

Your desktop shortcut is for an installed copy of NVDA.

If you are trying to run a portable version, that shortcut will not work.

Do you have NVDA installed?


Luke Davis
 

Howard Traxler wrote:

Thanks Gene, trying to start NVDA from the start menu simply shuts down the running portable version and stops without ...
We need to see what is failing when you attempt to start NVDA.

Try to start it, as Gene suggested, then, when it fails, attach the file at %temp%\nvda.log to an email to me directly (luke@...). You're not able to send it to the list directly, or I'd just suggest you do that.

Luke


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If you have installed it, and answered the questions about starting on
start-up, then it should work. I am aware that on some machines it can take a
significant time, and if the sound drivers do not load first, then nvda
seems to not speak, since the log shows it has found no sound device.
It does not depend on the desktop shortcut to run, but inserts itself into
the windows start up queue.
Do you hear anything working sound wise?. I guess you might wish to launch
a portable copy after start up and see whether it works. I assume it does
from your comment. So if you shut down the portable copy and use the
keyboard shortcut to start the installed one, does it give the rising tones
etc and other sounds, and then just not speak?.
This indicates it did not find the hardware on start up at windows start up
and set it to silence.

So I really cannot think of any other reason not mentioned already in this
thread.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Startup


Howard Traxler wrote:

Thanks Gene, trying to start NVDA from the start menu simply shuts down the running portable version and stops without ...
We need to see what is failing when you attempt to start NVDA.

Try to start it, as Gene suggested, then, when it fails, attach the file at %temp%\nvda.log to an email to me directly (luke@...). You're not able to send it to the list directly, or I'd just suggest you do that.

Luke




Howard Traxler
 

Yes, I do have NVDA installed and set to start on boot..  It started the first time I tried but doesn't any more.  So, I must revert to a portable version.  I must have something set wrong.  That shortcut shuts down the portable version and nothing else happens.  I'll try that shortcut while jaws is running and see what happens.


Howard

On 8/12/2022 1:38 AM, Sean Budd (NV Access) wrote:
Your desktop shortcut is for an installed copy of NVDA.

If you are trying to run a portable version, that shortcut will not work.

Do you have NVDA installed?


Gene
 

One thing to check is whether NVDA is running but you aren't getting speech.  When a screen-reader stops speaking, with no other information, it can't be assumed if the screen=-reader has stopped or if the synthesizer has stopped working.

Run narrator, control Windows key enter, that is hold both control and enter and press enter.

Once it is running, run NVDA.

After it should be running, try opening the NVDA menu with numpad insert n.  Does the NVDA menu open?

If so, the problem may be with the synthesizer or synthesizer settings in some way.
Close the menu with escape, then Open the speech dialog using control NVDA key v.
Tab around to volume and see what it is.  Raise it if necessary, then actavate the ok button.

If there is nothing to change activate cancel. 
Then open the synthesizer dialog with control NVDA key s.  You will be in a combo box.  Select a synthesizer, try e-speak.  Move to it and press enter.

Do you now have speech from both screen-readers?  I said to try e-speak assuming you weren't using it already.  If you already are, try something else like the one core voices. 

Gene

On 8/12/2022 6:30 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Yes, I do have NVDA installed and set to start on boot..  It started the first time I tried but doesn't any more.  So, I must revert to a portable version.  I must have something set wrong.  That shortcut shuts down the portable version and nothing else happens.  I'll try that shortcut while jaws is running and see what happens.


Howard

On 8/12/2022 1:38 AM, Sean Budd (NV Access) wrote:
Your desktop shortcut is for an installed copy of NVDA.

If you are trying to run a portable version, that shortcut will not work.

Do you have NVDA installed?