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Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old. The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout. --
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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Sarah k Alawami
No need to use yrou phone, use obs to record directg from from the pc. . I can if I'm not too busy do one later today. As I have a lot of issues, not as many as you do as I sort of know the kinks. I will send you the final result off list.
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On 20 May 2022, at 8:05, Ravindran V.S. wrote:
Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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Hi, The whatsapp beta for windows 10 and above is quite accessible, but it is missing some functionalities such as the ability to record voice messages. You can try it from here if you're on windows 10 or above: good luck.
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 6:16 PM Ravindran V.S. < ravivssl@...> wrote: Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote: Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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Sarah k Alawami
Ok, my Spanish is not all that good to make out what the text says. Can there be a translated copy on the what's app desktop page?
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 5:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Hi, have you tried the Whatsapp desktop add-on? You can find it at this site: https://nvda-addons.org/Hope this help. On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote: Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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I know nothing about Spanish also. But if you go to the first combo box at the site and select "English", Google will help translate it for you. Hope it help.
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On 21/5/2022 9:08 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote: Ok, my Spanish is not all that good to make out what the text says. Can there be a translated copy on the what's app desktop page?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.
Hi, have you tried the Whatsapp desktop add-on?
You can find it at this site:
https://nvda-addons.org/
Hope this help.
On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:
Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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Hi Sim,
Thank you for sharing the link.
Yes, I had this installed already, still I downloaded from the link you mentioned and tried.
It does not make any difference.
Thank you.
Ravi.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Hi, have you tried the Whatsapp desktop add-on? You can find it at this site: https://nvda-addons.org/Hope this help. On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote: Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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Hi, I have not tried this yet. Will check on this. Thanks, Ravi.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fawaz Abdul rahman Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 1:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. The whatsapp beta for windows 10 and above is quite accessible, but it is missing some functionalities such as the ability to record voice messages. You can try it from here if you're on windows 10 or above: On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 6:16 PM Ravindran V.S. <ravivssl@...> wrote: Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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Thank you for sharing. Let me go through it to see of the useful tips. Regards, Ravi.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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Of course it seems to have many useful tips. Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful. But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble. That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app. Thanks again for sharing. Ravi.
From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Thank you for sharing. Let me go through it to see of the useful tips. Regards, Ravi. The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will
be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them
are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help.
Thanks.
Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P: Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M: Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place
the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat
group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the
text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the
cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the
default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been
played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact
with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact
with the focus
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the
message with focus, either with control + M, or with the
applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option
select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will
be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the
confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.
Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis
directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will
show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to
insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For
instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The
results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the
shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For
instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example:
~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the
text. Example: ```Hey```
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On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S.
wrote:
Of course it seems to have many useful
tips.
Only issue is that, if it has an English
version or translation would have been more helpful.
But, here too the buttons are not labeled.
And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to
get things with a gamble.
That’s why I feel if someone could please
record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better
to improve accessibility with this app.
Thanks again for sharing.
Ravi.
Thank you for sharing.
Let me go through it to see of the useful
tips.
Regards,
Ravi.
The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How
to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA
screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove
helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very
old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good
enough" with the languages of India to say which one it
actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2,
Build 19044
You can't crush ideas
by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring
them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The
Dispossessed
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Many thanks. This will be extremely
helpful.
Kind regards
Christo
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On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong
wrote:
Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will
be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them
are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help.
Thanks.
Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P: Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M: Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and
place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a
chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on
the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the
cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the
default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text
mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has
been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat
contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat
contact with the focus
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the
message with focus, either with control + M, or with the
applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option
select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window
will be activated. The contact selection in the case of
forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message
deletion, etc.
Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis
directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will
show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key
to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For
instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The
results will start showing when you enter two characters at
least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using
the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For
instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message.
Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of
the text. Example: ```Hey```
On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S.
wrote:
Of course it seems to have many useful
tips.
Only issue is that, if it has an English
version or translation would have been more helpful.
But, here too the buttons are not
labeled. And the other process are also not straight
forward. Have to get things with a gamble.
That’s why I feel if someone could please
record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better
to improve accessibility with this app.
Thanks again for sharing.
Ravi.
Thank you for sharing.
Let me go through it to see of the useful
tips.
Regards,
Ravi.
The following 30 minute YouTube
tutorial, How
to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA
screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove
helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't
very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good
enough" with the languages of India to say which one it
actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English
throughout.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2,
Build 19044
You can't crush
ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by
ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The
Dispossessed
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Hello, I read all the above messages and I have a solution: I have made a video on NVDA with whatsap desktop so you can refer to this as well.
Hope it helps, Krit Kedia diving into the world of technology!
Many thanks. This will be extremely
helpful.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong
wrote:
Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will
be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them
are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help.
Thanks.
Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P: Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M: Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and
place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a
chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on
the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the
cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the
default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text
mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has
been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat
contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat
contact with the focus
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the
message with focus, either with control + M, or with the
applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option
select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window
will be activated. The contact selection in the case of
forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message
deletion, etc.
Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis
directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will
show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key
to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For
instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The
results will start showing when you enter two characters at
least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using
the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For
instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message.
Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of
the text. Example: ```Hey```
On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S.
wrote:
Of course it seems to have many useful
tips.
Only issue is that, if it has an English
version or translation would have been more helpful.
But, here too the buttons are not
labeled. And the other process are also not straight
forward. Have to get things with a gamble.
That’s why I feel if someone could please
record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better
to improve accessibility with this app.
Thanks again for sharing.
Ravi.
Thank you for sharing.
Let me go through it to see of the useful
tips.
Regards,
Ravi.
The following 30 minute YouTube
tutorial, How
to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA
screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove
helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't
very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good
enough" with the languages of India to say which one it
actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English
throughout.
--
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2,
Build 19044
You can't crush
ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by
ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The
Dispossessed
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Quoting: Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote: So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well? And, If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks. Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P: Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M: Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.
Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey``` On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote: Of course it seems to have many useful tips. Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful. But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble. That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app. Thanks again for sharing. Ravi. Thank you for sharing. Let me go through it to see of the useful tips. Regards, Ravi. The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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I downloaded the add on and the app is still quite bad. I'll be putting together that thing probably this weekend.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. I know nothing about Spanish also. But if you go to the first combo box at the site and select "English", Google will help translate it for you. Hope it help. On 21/5/2022 9:08 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote: Ok, my Spanish is not all that good to make out what the text says. Can there be a translated copy on the what's app desktop page?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah
Yong
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.
Hi, have you tried the Whatsapp desktop add-on?
You can find it at this site:
https://nvda-addons.org/
Hope this help.
On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:
Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.
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Sarah k Alawami
Actuallyu sending files is straight forward, I do this all the time. The unlabeled buttons are preview buttons. I just sent my mom a picture last night with the app. It’s fairly easy but a bit cludgy to work with.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S. Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Of course it seems to have many useful tips. Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful. But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble. That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app. Thanks again for sharing. Ravi. From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Thank you for sharing. Let me go through it to see of the useful tips. Regards, Ravi. The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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Sarah k Alawami
I’m going to be converting this into a table later for easier reading. Will paste it later in an email as I didn’t know there were that many key strokes.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful. On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote: Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks. Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P: Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M: Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.
Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey``` On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote: Of course it seems to have many useful tips. Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful. But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble. That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app. Thanks again for sharing. Ravi. Thank you for sharing. Let me go through it to see of the useful tips. Regards, Ravi. The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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Sarah k Alawami
I redid the document and included all tables where they should have been. Here it is reproduced. IntroHi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks. Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma | Settings | Control + P | Profile and About | control + M | Open the chat menu | control + G | Open the general menu of WhatsApp | Control + Shift + M | Mute chat | Control + Shift + D | Delete Chat | Control + Shift + N | Add new group participant in chat. | Control + Shift + U | Mark as unread | Control + Shift + E | Archive Chat | Control + Shift + P | Pin and unpin Chat | Control + Shift + T | announce chat in focus | Control + F | Search chat | Control + N | New Chat | Control + shift + F | Enable chat message search | Control + 1 to 9 | Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box | Alt + 1 to 9 | Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box. | Page up | Go back 5 messages in the list | Page down | Advance 5 messages in the list | Control + Tab | move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box | Control + Shift + Tab | move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box | Control + Shift + A | Open attachment panel. | control + shift + C | Copy the text of the message with the focus | control + L | Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser. | Alt + Enter | Download the message file when it contains one | Alt + downm arrow | activate the read more button of text mesages. | Control + R | Start and send voice message. | Enter | Play or stop voice messages with focus | SPACEBAR | Switch between playback speeds of a voice message | control + T | Know how long the voice message with focus has been played | Shift + fullstop | Increas speed of selected voice message | Shift + comma | Decrease speed of selected voice message | Alt + Control + Enter | Move focus to the message you reply to. | Right arrow | Open context menu of message with focus | Right arrow | Open context menu of chat with focus | Alt + control + L | Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus | Alt + control + V | Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus |
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
mark and unmark the message with focus | SPACEBAR. | Verbalize the number of selected messages | S. | Forward the selected messages | R. | Delete the selected messages | Delete | Highlight the selected messages | D. Cannot work | Exit selection mode | Q. | | |
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.
Tips:
Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```
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Sarah k Alawami
I redid the document and corrected some spelling mistakes. There are tables and a toc that shows what is necessary. Here is the link on WeTramsfer. It will be around for a week. https://we.tl/t-ytgEUyyXeq
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 8:13 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp. Quoting: Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote: So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well? And, If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too? Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks. Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA
Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P: Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M: Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus
Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.
Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.
Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey``` On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote: Of course it seems to have many useful tips. Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful. But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble. That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app. Thanks again for sharing. Ravi. Thank you for sharing. Let me go through it to see of the useful tips. Regards, Ravi. The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you. It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.
The tutorial narration is not in English. I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is. NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed
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