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NVDA works slowly in excel 2016


 

Hi to all
Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5, then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live preview.
My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7 columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't so I ask here before deciding
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
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Michael Munn
 

Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA running 18.4. 
I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side. 
I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard. 
Thanks 
Best regards 
michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@...> wrote:
Hi to all
Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5, then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live preview.
My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7 columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't so I ask here before deciding
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@...; tech@...
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@...
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
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 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
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Quentin Christensen
 

I wonder if it is related to this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348

Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA starts speaking as mentioned.

If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log, particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see anything new in there.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:
Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA running 18.4. 
I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side. 
I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard. 
Thanks 
Best regards 
michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@...> wrote:
Hi to all
Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5, then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live preview.
My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7 columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't so I ask here before deciding
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@...; tech@...
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@...
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 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
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Hi Quentin
Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the log of NVDA from my laptop:
 
INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
Loading config: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
NVDA version 2018.4.1
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
NVDA initialized
 
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@...; tech@...
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@...
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

I wonder if it is related to this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348

Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA starts speaking as mentioned.

If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log, particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see anything new in there.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:
Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA running 18.4. 
I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side. 
I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard. 
Thanks 
Best regards 
michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@...> wrote:
Hi to all
Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5, then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live preview.
My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7 columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't so I ask here before deciding
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@...; tech@...
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@...
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/



--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls - Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown (11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524: DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018 B3394 3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov C3394 Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online D3394 Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:

Hi Quentin
Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the log of NVDA from my laptop:
INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
Loading config: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
NVDA version 2018.4.1
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
NVDA initialized
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@... <mailto:info@...>; tech@... <mailto:tech@...>
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: @cuongdang <mailto:@cuongdang>; @dangmanhcuong <mailto:@dangmanhcuong>
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
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 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
I wonder if it is related to this issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348
Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you
may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
starts speaking as mentioned.
If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
anything new in there.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...
<mailto:michaelrbms@...>> wrote:
Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
running 18.4.
I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
Thanks
Best regards
michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia www.nfbv.org
<http://www.nfbv.org>
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
<http://www.nfbmd.org>
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu>
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
<@cuongdang <mailto:@cuongdang>> wrote:
__
Hi to all
Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
preview.
My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
so I ask here before deciding
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist.,
HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: info@...
<mailto:info@...>; tech@...
<mailto:tech@...>
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org;
http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: @cuongdang
<mailto:@cuongdang>; @dangmanhcuong
<mailto:@dangmanhcuong>
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

do you have any addins installed in MS Office? Please check in Options / security Center or Options / addins. Especially com addins are causing Performance issues.
Do you have many comment in the spreasheet? This still causes Problems in Office 365 with NVDA. But I think there is already a pull request to improve this.

Best
Adriani


Am Mi., 30. Jan. 2019 um 13:06 Uhr schrieb Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>:

Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting
without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls  -  Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as  tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524:
DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018  B3394  3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov  C3394  Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online  D3394  Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:
> Hi Quentin
> Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the
> log of NVDA from my laptop:
> INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
> Starting NVDA
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
> Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
> Loading config:
> C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> NVDA version 2018.4.1
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
> [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using comtypes version 1.1.3
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Braille input initialized
> INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Using liblouis version 3.7.0
> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
> NVDA initialized
> Cuong
> ----------------
> Dang Manh Cuong
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>   Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
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>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
>
>     I wonder if it is related to this issue:
>     https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348
>
>     Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
>     sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you
>     may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
>     starts speaking as mentioned.
>
>     If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
>     particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
>     anything new in there.
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Quentin.
>
>     On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...
>     <mailto:michaelrbms@...>> wrote:
>
>         Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
>         running 18.4.
>         I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
>         of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
>         you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
>         I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
>         Thanks
>         Best regards
>         michael Munn
>
>         Michael Munn
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>
>
>
>
>         On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
>         <dangmanhcuong@... <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>> wrote:
>
>             __
>             Hi to all
>             Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
>             slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
>             then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
>             moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
>             to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
>             something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
>             preview.
>             My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
>             columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
>             I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
>             that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
>             so I ask here before deciding
>             Any help would be appreciated.
>             Cuong
>             ----------------
>             Dang Manh Cuong
>               The Assistive technology specialist
>               Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
>             52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist.,
>             HCM, Vietnam.
>               Tel: +8428 7302-4488
>               E-mail: info@...
>             <mailto:info@...>; tech@...
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>
>
>
>     --
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>     Training and Support Manager
>
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>
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>




Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I have stayed out of this for a while, but since I see one report that reflects what I say, I also will say that without any comments or complex formulas, I also get a great delay 1 or 2 seconds per keystroke within Excel from 2016 365.  This goes back a while.  I didn't complain too much because it still works and if I use JAWS where the problem doesn't exist, I have to pay.  I use my Excel as a simple spread sheet/database for my disc contents of music and movies.  There is nothing fancy about this and I do indeed have this sluggishness.

On 1/30/2019 7:05 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls  -  Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown (11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as  tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524: DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018  B3394  3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov  C3394  Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online  D3394  Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:
Hi Quentin
Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the log of NVDA from my laptop:
INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
Loading config: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
NVDA version 2018.4.1
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
NVDA initialized
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
  The Assistive technology specialist
  Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
  Tel: +8428 7302-4488
  E-mail: info@... <mailto:info@...>; tech@... <mailto:tech@...>
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    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
    *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

    I wonder if it is related to this issue:
    https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348

    Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
    sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel. Often you
    may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
    starts speaking as mentioned.

    If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
    particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
    anything new in there.

    Kind regards

    Quentin.

    On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...
    <mailto:michaelrbms@...>> wrote:

        Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
        running 18.4.
        I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
        of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
        you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
        I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
        Thanks
        Best regards
        michael Munn

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        On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
        <@cuongdang <mailto:@cuongdang>> wrote:

            __
            Hi to all
            Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
            slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
            then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
            moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
            to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
            something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
            preview.
            My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
            columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
            I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
            that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
            so I ask here before deciding
            Any help would be appreciated.
            Cuong
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Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Adriani,


Again I will chime in on this one.  I do not have any add ons in the Office 365 suite and I have tried this issue by restarting NVDA with add ons disabled.


On 1/30/2019 7:36 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Hello,

do you have any addins installed in MS Office? Please check in Options / security Center or Options / addins. Especially com addins are causing Performance issues.
Do you have many comment in the spreasheet? This still causes Problems in Office 365 with NVDA. But I think there is already a pull request to improve this.

Best
Adriani


Am Mi., 30. Jan. 2019 um 13:06 Uhr schrieb Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>:
Hello!

It is not needed to have nothing of that...

My spreadsheet do not have nothing of that and it is also slow...

Here it is the relevant part of the log file, obtained after restarting
without addons...

The voice have a delay of more than 1 second...
Microsoft Excel of Office 365...

NVDA version alpha-16639,504da10d
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation

INFO - core.main (11:35:02.371):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:35:04.750):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:04.750):
Cancelling

IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.401):
Speaking [u'Vocalizer-nvda.xls  -  Modo de Compatibilidade - Excel']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.401):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:28.411):
Potential unimplemented child class:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x04ED5C10>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:28.440):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 7802 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:28.450):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:28.450):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(11:35:28.490):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
IO - speech.speak (11:35:28.510):
Speaking [u'Licen\xe7as  tabela']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:30.500):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:30.510):
Queue empty, done processing
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8731 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8732 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.510):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.519):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8734 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8735 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8736 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8737 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8738 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8739 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:30.522):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 8740 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:33.536):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:33.552):
Cancelling
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (11:35:33.582):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:524:
DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
IO - speech.speak (11:35:34.716):
Speaking [u'25/12/2018  B3394  3393']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.732):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:34.732):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x0383BF90>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9404 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9406 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:34.732):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 9733 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:34.931):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:34.931):
Calling idle on audio player
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:36.569):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:36.598):
Cancelling
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:36.608):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - speech.speak (11:35:37.799):
Speaking [u'Jan Hancharov  C3394  Nome']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.822):
Begin processing speech
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (11:35:37.822):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell
object at 0x04F2FE30>
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10070 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10072 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:35:37.822):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67496, objectID 10400 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Erro não especificado
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._callback (11:35:37.888):
Done pushing audio
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:37.888):
Calling idle on audio player
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:40.515):
Queue empty, done processing
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:35:44.996):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver.cancel (11:35:45.012):
Cancelling
IO - speech.speak (11:35:46.158):
Speaking [u'Online  D3394  Dealer']
DEBUG - synthDrivers.oneCore.SynthDriver._processQueue (11:35:46.174):




Às 06:29 de 30/01/2019, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:
> Hi Quentin
> Yes the file I work has some cells contains dropdown, and I send you the
> log of NVDA from my laptop:
> INFO - __main__ (13:24:22.020):
> Starting NVDA
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.223):
> Config dir: C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda
> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:24:22.223):
> Loading config:
> C:\Users\Administrator.DOYR0UO74O699VE\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> NVDA version 2018.4.1
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.519):
> Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17)
> [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using comtypes version 1.1.3
> INFO - core.main (13:24:22.525):
> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.091):
> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Braille input initialized
> INFO - braille.initialize (13:24:23.091):
> Using liblouis version 3.7.0
> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:24:23.091):
> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:24:23.361):
> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
> INFO - core.main (13:24:23.941):
> NVDA initialized
> Cuong
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:42 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
>
>     I wonder if it is related to this issue:
>     https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7348
>
>     Essentially if you have elements like comments or drop-downs in your
>     sheet it currently causes a slowdown with NVDA in Excel.  Often you
>     may see the focus move immediately but have a delay before NVDA
>     starts speaking as mentioned.
>
>     If it looks different to that issue, if you could send me a log,
>     particularly at Debug level, I can have a look and see if we can see
>     anything new in there.
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Quentin.
>
>     On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...
>     <mailto:michaelrbms@...>> wrote:
>
>         Hi, regard to your question about the latency in Excel with NVDA
>         running 18.4.
>         I has happen to face the same issue with it using the same built
>         of screen reader and operating system. This is not an issue that
>         you created. this issue is more on the Microsoft's side.
>         I will email Quentin and hear his input .relate to this regard.
>         Thanks
>         Best regards
>         michael Munn
>
>         Michael Munn
>         Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
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>         Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
>         National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
>         <http://www.nfbmd.org>
>         Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
>         www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu>
>
>
>
>
>         On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dang Manh Cuong
>         <dangmanhcuong@... <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>> wrote:
>
>             __
>             Hi to all
>             Using Windows 10 1809 64 bit, NVDA 2018.4.1, and it works
>             slowly in Excel 2016. For example, focus stand at cell A5,
>             then I press right arrow to navigate to B5. I saw the cursor
>             moved to b5 immediately, but I must wait for about a second
>             to have NVDA read it. In Excel options, I just turn off
>             something like show mini toolbar on selection, enable live
>             preview.
>             My workbook just has 1 sheed with about 100 rows, and 7
>             columns, and auto filter is turn on for easily look up data.
>             I can create an issue on git hub for this, but I'm not sure
>             that is error from NVDA or I did something that I shouldn't
>             so I ask here before deciding
>             Any help would be appreciated.
>             Cuong
>             ----------------
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>             HCM, Vietnam.
>               Tel: +8428 7302-4488
>               E-mail: info@...
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Martin O'Sullivan
 

This issue is driving me mad  Excel is becoming unusable with NVDA.  NVDA often reads the contents of the previous sells, for example if you arrow between sells NVDA will read the contents of the sell you left and not the sell you entered.

 

It is really slow switching between sheets.

 

What is the fix for this?


Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Martin,

 

I would also like to hear the answer to this from our resident NVDA experts.

 

In my own experience, when I run a macro to process an Excel worksheet, Excel slows down dramatically after each run of the macro so that I have to restart the computer to get back to a speedy process. I have read that this is a memory management problem with Excel which fails to flush out previously used memory and so runs out of accessible memory slots.

 

I raise this here, in case you are finding this sluggishness right away when you start NVDA or after working for a little while? In that case, I would recommend that you put on the NVDA log for a full working session so that the team can see just what the computer is doing and whether this is an Excel issue or due to NVDA programming. I intend producing such a log myself for both Ms. Word and Ms. Excel which both end up running slowly and frequently crash!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin O'Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016

 

This issue is driving me mad  Excel is becoming unusable with NVDA.  NVDA often reads the contents of the previous sells, for example if you arrow between sells NVDA will read the contents of the sell you left and not the sell you entered.

 

It is really slow switching between sheets.

 

What is the fix for this?


Jackie
 

I don't know where it is in 2016, but I found I had to take Excel out
of Live Preview mode in order for it to work, just in case that is of
interest to some. Again, because of the version hell that is Excel &
MS products in general, I can't tell you specifically where that's
located, but check options, particularly under the view tab, though
again, it may be elsewhere. It made Excel usable again for me, whereas
before it wasn't.

On 7/22/20, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
Martin,



I would also like to hear the answer to this from our resident NVDA
experts.



In my own experience, when I run a macro to process an Excel worksheet,
Excel slows down dramatically after each run of the macro so that I have to
restart the computer to get back to a speedy process. I have read that this
is a memory management problem with Excel which fails to flush out
previously used memory and so runs out of accessible memory slots.



I raise this here, in case you are finding this sluggishness right away when
you start NVDA or after working for a little while? In that case, I would
recommend that you put on the NVDA log for a full working session so that
the team can see just what the computer is doing and whether this is an
Excel issue or due to NVDA programming. I intend producing such a log myself
for both Ms. Word and Ms. Excel which both end up running slowly and
frequently crash!



All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin
O'Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016



This issue is driving me mad Excel is becoming unusable with NVDA. NVDA
often reads the contents of the previous sells, for example if you arrow
between sells NVDA will read the contents of the sell you left and not the
sell you entered.



It is really slow switching between sheets.



What is the fix for this?






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Martin O'Sullivan
 

Well did that and it has improved the performance  however   The issue of nvda reading behind the selection still persists.

 

But not Shure that this is an excel problem, as it does the same in Gmail, and other applications.

 

so, when you arrow down NVDA reads the line before the line which you are on.


but for anyone looking for how to do it here is a quick guide.

How to Disable Live Preview in Excel

 
The live preview in Excel shows how a feature affects the document as you hover over different choices. For example, when hovering over different types of charts, the selected data will demo different charts. To disable the Live Preview, please following the steps below:

press alt tap f then tap t

Uncheck "Enable Live Preview" in the options dialog box

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 15:53, Jackie <abletec@...> wrote:
I don't know where it is in 2016, but I found I had to take Excel out
of Live Preview mode in order for it to work, just in case that is of
interest to some. Again, because of the version hell that is Excel &
MS products in general, I can't tell you specifically where that's
located, but check options, particularly under the view tab, though
again, it may be elsewhere. It made Excel usable again for me, whereas
before it wasn't.

On 7/22/20, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
> Martin,
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> I would also like to hear the answer to this from our resident NVDA
> experts.
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> In my own experience, when I run a macro to process an Excel worksheet,
> Excel slows down dramatically after each run of the macro so that I have to
> restart the computer to get back to a speedy process. I have read that this
> is a memory management problem with Excel which fails to flush out
> previously used memory and so runs out of accessible memory slots.
>
>
>
> I raise this here, in case you are finding this sluggishness right away when
> you start NVDA or after working for a little while? In that case, I would
> recommend that you put on the NVDA log for a full working session so that
> the team can see just what the computer is doing and whether this is an
> Excel issue or due to NVDA programming. I intend producing such a log myself
> for both Ms. Word and Ms. Excel which both end up running slowly and
> frequently crash!
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> All the best,
>
>
>
> Cearbhall
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> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin
> O'Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:16 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA works slowly in excel 2016
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> This issue is driving me mad  Excel is becoming unusable with NVDA.  NVDA
> often reads the contents of the previous sells, for example if you arrow
> between sells NVDA will read the contents of the sell you left and not the
> sell you entered.
>
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> It is really slow switching between sheets.
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> What is the fix for this?
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