locked OneCore Voices


Daveed Mandell <daveedmandell@...>
 

Hello:

Would it be possible to provide instructions in the User Guide for adding OneCore voices, instead of referring us to a rather unclear Microsoft article, whose link is often broken? Many, many thanks for your consideration.

Best regards,
Daveed Mandell


 

Since getting these on a Windows machine is actually something one does under Windows (NVDA can "pick these up" once they're there) I'd be voting no.  I also have seldom had a broken link for any Microsoft support page for something new-ish.  Ancient stuff is another story.
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Chris
 

Its really easy to figure out, to add voices is to type add voices into windows search (unless you need instruction  on how to search) and hit enter on add speech voices, and you should land on the add voices button under settings, hit enter, and choose your language to add the voices by hitting space to select then hit the add button, and then they should download

 

 

 

From: Daveed Mandell
Sent: 26 April 2021 14:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OneCore Voices

 

Hello:

Would it be possible to provide instructions in the User Guide for adding OneCore voices, instead of referring us to a rather unclear Microsoft article, whose link is often broken? Many, many thanks for your consideration.

Best regards,
Daveed Mandell

 


Gene
 

In part, the user guide says the following regarding One Core Voices:
Windows 10 includes new voices known as "OneCore" or "mobile" voices. Voices
are provided for many languages, and they are more responsive than the
Microsoft voices available using Microsoft Speech API version 5.

I think some or perhaps many people reading the sentence, may draw an
incorrect conclusion. The sentence is correct and it specifies Microsoft
voices. But I think another sentence should be added that other voices,
such as the MSAPI version of Eloquence, are as or more responsive. I don't
know if they are more responsive and someone familiar with both would have
to write the statement accurately.

My point is that, worded as it is, it is easy for people to misunderstand
what is written as applying to all MSAPI5 voices.

Gene


 

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:37 AM, Gene wrote:
Voices
are provided for many languages, and they are more responsive than the
Microsoft voices available using Microsoft Speech API version 5.
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How that could be construed as applying to anything other than Microsoft voices is beyond me.  It explicitly states "Microsoft voices."  That's about as clear as it gets.  There are lots of other voices that use MS SAPI5, but those are not Microsoft voices.  They're made by whoever they happen to be made by.
 
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Gene
 

Often, statements that are factually correct may be misunderstood.  Advertising takes advantage of this.  I know what it said but because I read it more than once to make sure what it was saying, I think it may mislead some people. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A clarification regarding the user guide and One Core Voices
 
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:37 AM, Gene wrote:
Voices
are provided for many languages, and they are more responsive than the
Microsoft voices available using Microsoft Speech API version 5.
-
How that could be construed as applying to anything other than Microsoft voices is beyond me.  It explicitly states "Microsoft voices."  That's about as clear as it gets.  There are lots of other voices that use MS SAPI5, but those are not Microsoft voices.  They're made by whoever they happen to be made by.
 
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Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

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Daveed Mandell <daveedmandell@...>
 

I find Microsoft one core voices article to be extremely confusing not all of the keys please respect that many of you are saying well it’s very easy to figure out what may be for you it is and that’s very good but for some of us it is not thank you


On Apr 26, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Since getting these on a Windows machine is actually something one does under Windows (NVDA can "pick these up" once they're there) I'd be voting no.  I also have seldom had a broken link for any Microsoft support page for something new-ish.  Ancient stuff is another story.
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       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Chris Smart
 

Daveed,

I'm not sure what you are trying to say in your post below.

If you are dictating, and I suspect you are, simply say the punctuation you need, when you need it, like this:


Hi comma my name is Chris period


If you're still confused about OneCore voices, here's the relevant section from the NVDA User Guide again.


14.5. Windows OneCore Voices
Windows 10 includes new voices known as "OneCore" or "mobile" voices. Voices are provided for many languages, and they are more responsive than the Microsoft voices available using Microsoft Speech API version 5. On Windows 10, NVDA uses Windows OneCore voices by default (eSpeak NG is used in other releases).
To add new Windows OneCore voices, go to "Speech Settings", within Windows system settings. Use the "Add voices" option and search for the desired language. Many languages include multiple variants. "United Kingdom" and "Australia" are two of the English variants. "France", "Canada" and "Switzerland" are French variants available. Search for the broader language (such as English or French), then locate the variant in the list. Select any languages desired and use the "add" button to add them. Once added, restart NVDA.
Please see this Microsoft article for a list of available voices:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-a-supported-languages-and-voices-4486e345-7730-53da-fcfe-55cc64300f01


and yes, that link does work.

On 2021-04-26 1:34 p.m., Daveed Mandell wrote:
I find Microsoft one core voices article to be extremely confusing not all of the keys please respect that many of you are saying well it’s very easy to figure out what may be for you it is and that’s very good but for some of us it is not thank you


On Apr 26, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Since getting these on a Windows machine is actually something one does under Windows (NVDA can "pick these up" once they're there) I'd be voting no.  I also have seldom had a broken link for any Microsoft support page for something new-ish.  Ancient stuff is another story.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


 

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 01:34 PM, Daveed Mandell wrote:
but for some of us it is not
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Then ask for assistance, in the appropriate venue, which is not here, with the issue.  The fact that it is difficult for you means you need to seek the assistance you need, not complain that others who do not share your experience are sharing theirs, which is at odds with yours.

OneCore Voices are not an NVAccess product, they are a Microsoft product, and NVAccess is not and should not be responsible for documenting them.  They are doing the 100% appropriate thing and referring individuals directly to the documentation from the correct source.

If you wish to pursue this further, then please open a topic on the Chat Subgroup or the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group.

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And because the question is certain to arise again, and so instructions are on the group archive, here are step-by-step instructions for adding OneCore Voices to Windows 10 . . .

Adding Additional OneCore Voices to  Windows 10:
1. Settings, Time & Language, Speech Pane
2. Navigate to the Manage Voices Grouping, Add Voices button and activate.
3. The Voice packages dialog opens and the first thing in it is a search box that allows you to enter the language you're looking for.  It's a good idea to enter something here as it makes the list that you select from that follows focused on that language and its dialects.
4. There will be a checkbox for each language/dialect, check the one(s) for the voices(s) you want.
5. Activate the Add button and the voices you have chosen will be added under Windows 10 for any program(s) that can use them.  How you select those voices is specific to the program in which they are being selected, and should be documented in that program's user guide.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon