locked OneCore Voices Uninstalling themselves


Sharni-Lee Ward
 

A couple weeks ago, I installed the OneCore voices for Japanese and a few others, so I could use them in future. I had a bit of trouble getting them to stick around initially, but they seemed to cooperate, not disappearing after restarts. I just went and checked, though, and I'm back to only the voices for US English and Australian English.


Is there a way to stop Windows from removing these voices whenever I look away for too long?


Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Just checked, and all the voices are visible within Narrator when I go to install more, but NVDA doesn't see them when I switch to 1Core voices in the Speech Settings. What's going on?

On 9/08/2022 5:17 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I installed the OneCore voices for Japanese and a few others, so I could use them in future. I had a bit of trouble getting them to stick around initially, but they seemed to cooperate, not disappearing after restarts. I just went and checked, though, and I'm back to only the voices for US English and Australian English.


Is there a way to stop Windows from removing these voices whenever I look away for too long?





Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Checked again, and although the voices are listed in the dropdown where you can choose which voice narrator will use, the only installed packages were English—United States and English—Australia. I reiterate, how do I stop Windows from uninstalling these packages when my back is turned?

On 9/08/2022 5:35 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Just checked, and all the voices are visible within Narrator when I go to install more, but NVDA doesn't see them when I switch to 1Core voices in the Speech Settings. What's going on?

On 9/08/2022 5:17 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I installed the OneCore voices for Japanese and a few others, so I could use them in future. I had a bit of trouble getting them to stick around initially, but they seemed to cooperate, not disappearing after restarts. I just went and checked, though, and I'm back to only the voices for US English and Australian English.


Is there a way to stop Windows from removing these voices whenever I look away for too long?








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Just a thought, as obviously I do not have a need for Japanese, but could there have been a windows update which has caused them to disappear?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] OneCore Voices Uninstalling themselves


Checked again, and although the voices are listed in the dropdown where
you can choose which voice narrator will use, the only installed
packages were English—United States and English—Australia. I reiterate,
how do I stop Windows from uninstalling these packages when my back is
turned?

On 9/08/2022 5:35 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Just checked, and all the voices are visible within Narrator when I go to install more, but NVDA doesn't see them when I switch to 1Core voices in the Speech Settings. What's going on?

On 9/08/2022 5:17 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I installed the OneCore voices for Japanese and a few others, so I could use them in future. I had a bit of trouble getting them to stick around initially, but they seemed to cooperate, not disappearing after restarts. I just went and checked, though, and I'm back to only the voices for US English and Australian English.


Is there a way to stop Windows from removing these voices whenever I look away for too long?









Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I suspect so, but why would they just go deleting things I installed?

On 9/08/2022 5:45 pm, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Just a thought, as obviously I do not have a need for Japanese, but could there have been a windows update which has caused them to disappear?
Brian


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Well in Windows 10, I've seen this quite a bit, but usually only on third party software. I don't know but its one reason why on this working everyday machine I have shunned Windows 10.

I do have it on a laptop, but regularly find settings have changed after an update like the views of files and folders and the security settings.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2022 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OneCore Voices Uninstalling themselves


I suspect so, but why would they just go deleting things I installed?

On 9/08/2022 5:45 pm, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Just a thought, as obviously I do not have a need for Japanese, but could there have been a windows update which has caused them to disappear?
Brian


Gene
 

Did you try exiting NVDA and running it again?  I don't know if that would help, of course, but that is the first thing to try when odd problems develop regarding NVDA.

The second, if that doesn't help, is to reboot.  Then, its time to do other things, if necessary.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 2:35 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Just checked, and all the voices are visible within Narrator when I go to install more, but NVDA doesn't see them when I switch to 1Core voices in the Speech Settings. What's going on?

On 9/08/2022 5:17 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
A couple weeks ago, I installed the OneCore voices for Japanese and a few others, so I could use them in future. I had a bit of trouble getting them to stick around initially, but they seemed to cooperate, not disappearing after restarts. I just went and checked, though, and I'm back to only the voices for US English and Australian English.


Is there a way to stop Windows from removing these voices whenever I look away for too long?













Gene
 

They have disappeared in the past.  I think there is some sort of minor problem on the system but I have no idea what it is.  I suspect they are gone but rebooting before doing other things is a good idea.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 2:45 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Just a thought, as obviously I do not have a need for Japanese, but could there have been a windows update which has caused them to disappear?
Brian



Gene
 

You have a lot of unexpected minor behavior problems on your computers.  As I recall, you use a utility that changes the view used by Windows in places.  I'm not sure where.  But perhaps the settings changes may be caused by that utility.  Its better just to learn the small changes in the format, such as those in the start menu and use the new system as it is. 

On switching from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I looked at the start menu, and very quickly found how to get to the list of applications.  If I open the start menu and tab twice, I am in the list.

I don't like introducing utilities that change the intended display of items.  I don't know if or how such utilities may have unexpected results and the changes to the view are minor in general.

Gene



On 8/9/2022 4:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Well in Windows 10, I've seen this quite a bit, but usually only on third party software. I don't know but its one reason why on this working everyday machine I have shunned Windows 10.

I do have it on a laptop, but regularly find settings have changed after an update like the views of files and folders and the security settings.
Brian



 

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 05:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I do have it on a laptop, but regularly find settings have changed after an update like the views of files and folders and the security settings.
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Then something is wrong on that machine.

In the early days of Windows 10, it was routine, and insanity-making, how updates, and particularly Feature Updates, would change user settings without any sort of warning, not even a message during the install process that some settings might change.  That has not been the case literally for years now.  I cannot recall the last time I've witnessed a change in user settings with a Windows 10 update.  If you're having stuff like this happen "regularly" then something is wrong, and it is not by any means characteristic of how Windows 10 usually works.
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This topic will be locked after this post.  The issue that started it, while related to synth voices, is clearly NOT an NVDA-related issue.  NVDA does not ever remove OneCore voices.  These are controlled at the level of Windows, as is the whole process of acquiring and installing them.  If in-depth discussion about this particular issue is desired, the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group is the appropriate venue:

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