problems using NVDA with my new laptop
Betsy Grenevitch
Chris, thank you so much. I just realized because of what you
said that I needed to make sure the function keys were set to
allow home to work with F9 and somehow they had gotten reset.
Thankfully, I do not have to go into the bios to change their
function but my daughter found that I just need to do escape plus
F-end.
You all have been so helpful for me and I have taken notes to have in the future in case I forget since I have memory problems. Thank you so much to those who make this list available to those of us who need it from time to time.
On 12/30/2020 8:53 AM, Chris
Mullins wrote:
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Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Betsy, when using a laptop keyboard the only time you use desktop settings is if your keyboard has a numpad.
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NVDA+1 on the keyboard is a good way to locate keys. you will still need some sighted help because not all keys are labeled in a way that NVDA will recognize.An alternative is to invest in a USB keyboard or a wireless one. I say this because you will find some of your NVDA key commands fun to accomplish because many of them will require using the FN key to accomplish. thus, my suggestion of using an external keyboard.
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From: "Betsy Grenevitch" <blindangel61@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] problems using NVDA with my new laptop Thank you, Mareth. I will write this down and try it later today.
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Dave Grossoehme
Good Day: I have seen this problem before. It's possible that the NVDA settings in keyboard settings is set to laptop. If so, none of the numpad keys for NVDA will work. She will need to go into NVDA and change that to desktop. In order to answer this, she would need to check and see if any of the numpad key commands work in NVDA.. Dave
On 12/29/2020 7:23 PM, Betsy Grenevitch
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Gene
That may have been true in the past but it isn't now. numpad commands work in either setting.
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Gene
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From: Dave Grossoehme Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 12:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problems using NVDA with my new laptop Good Day: I have seen this problem before. It's possible that the NVDA settings in keyboard settings is set to laptop. If so, none of the numpad keys for NVDA will work. She will need to go into NVDA and change that to desktop. In order to answer this, she would need to check and see if any of the numpad key commands work in NVDA.. Dave On 12/29/2020 7:23 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote: Gene, I have used numpad very little until getting this laptop. I assume you mean just pushing the numpad 7 by itself when nomlock is off, right? If that is the case it does not do anything if it can be used in an email as that is where I tried it. When I push any of those three numbers it just says clipboard. If you would like for me to write you privately, please let me know. On 12/29/2020 7:52 PM, Gene wrote: it might help clarify things if we knew the answer to the following question: When you use numpad commands by themselves, do they work correctly? In other words, does numpad 8 read the current line of the object you are on? Does numpad 7 move to the previous line and numpad 9 move to the next line? I also did a bit of experimentation and if a current or near current version of NVDA is being used, it doesn't matter, for what we are discussing, if laptop or desktop mode is being used. it may for other commands, but the numpad review commands such as shift 7, 8, and 9, work in both modes. Before continuing with any experimentation, do the following to make completely sure you are working in the correct screen-review mode: Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1 until you hear no previous review mode. If you changed review modes at some point, you may well have unexpected results. Gene On 12/29/2020 6:16 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 06:40 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote: Since you are using a laptop NVDA should be on laptop keyboard layout.- I'm sorry, but that's incorrect and, in actuality, very seldom the case or necessary. If you have a laptop that has a number pad as part of its built in keyboard NVDA installs using desktop keyboard layout because it can since all the keys are there. I only have folks use laptop layout if they are already familiar with it and prefer it, or if they have a laptop that does not have a number pad as part of its built in keyboard. That is the minority of laptops produced today. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 [Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:] Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next. We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy. ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner -- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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