Problems With NVDA and Windows10


Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hello:
I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10,
that the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it
to start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for
the characters to appear.
I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is
a problem with the operating system windows10.
I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem
at any time with windows7 or even XP.
I suspected at a time that the various security installations were
causing the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has
still not solved the problem.
So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
Ibrahim.


JM Casey
 

It might be some kind of app running in the background that's slowing down your system, but it really shouldn’t' be Defender ora ny of the Microsoft programmes, which should work pretty smoothly together.
I have had big system slowdowns sometimes after a huge amount of disk activity, but it happens maybe once every few months or less and a restart always sets everything right.
The problem you are experiencing must be specific to your system.
Perhaps if you give some stats about the machine, someone might have a comment.
Maybe also go into task manager and take a look at startup items; see if you can get rid of anything.
Maybe the manufacturer put some bloatware on the system that is messing with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: August 10, 2021 08:00 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA and Windows10

Hello:
I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10, that the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it to start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for the characters to appear.
I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is a problem with the operating system windows10.
I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem at any time with windows7 or even XP.
I suspected at a time that the various security installations were causing the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has still not solved the problem.
So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
Ibrahim.


Jackie
 

Ibrahim, there's a lot you don't tell us--specifically, how much ram
this machine has, how much free hard drive space, how many processors,
& their speed.

There is a Windows 10 compatibility tester that MS has. Did you run
this? If you have < 8gb of ram, then I suggest that Windows 10 is not
a good choice, especially when running adaptive technology. I would
also say that because this is an upgrade, there may be incompatible
apps or drivers.

On 8/10/21, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
It might be some kind of app running in the background that's slowing down
your system, but it really shouldn’t' be Defender ora ny of the Microsoft
programmes, which should work pretty smoothly together.
I have had big system slowdowns sometimes after a huge amount of disk
activity, but it happens maybe once every few months or less and a restart
always sets everything right.
The problem you are experiencing must be specific to your system.
Perhaps if you give some stats about the machine, someone might have a
comment.
Maybe also go into task manager and take a look at startup items; see if
you can get rid of anything.
Maybe the manufacturer put some bloatware on the system that is messing
with it.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: August 10, 2021 08:00 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA and Windows10

Hello:
I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10, that
the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it to
start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for the
characters to appear.
I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is a
problem with the operating system windows10.
I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem at any
time with windows7 or even XP.
I suspected at a time that the various security installations were causing
the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has still not solved
the problem.
So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
Ibrahim.










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Gene
 

8GB of RAM is adequate for the typical Windows 10 user.  While I’ve seen comments that performance is faster with 16GB, 8gb does not result in the kind of slowness described.  There are a lot of blind screen-reader users with 8GB of RAM, using Windows 10. 
 
It may be that the computer can run Windows 7 well, but that it doesn’t have the power to run Windows 10 well. 
 
What synthesizer are you using?  One thing that might help is using a different synthesizer.  For example, buying Eloquence if you are using speech that requires much more power, might make a significant difference.  You can try an Eloquence demo and see. 
 
But if you are using something like E-Speak, trying a Eloquence demo won’t help.  E-Speak is already responsive in less powerful machines. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA and Windows10
 
Ibrahim, there's a lot you don't tell us--specifically, how much ram
this machine has, how much free hard drive space, how many processors,
& their speed.

There is a Windows 10 compatibility tester that MS has. Did you run
this? If you have < 8gb of ram, then I suggest that Windows 10 is not
a good choice, especially when running adaptive technology. I would
also say that because this is an upgrade, there may be incompatible
apps or drivers.

On 8/10/21, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
> It might be some kind of app running in the background that's slowing down
> your system, but it really shouldn’t' be Defender ora ny of the Microsoft
> programmes, which should work pretty smoothly together.
> I have had big system slowdowns sometimes after a huge amount of disk
> activity, but it happens maybe once every few months  or less and a restart
> always sets everything right.
> The problem you are experiencing must be specific to your system.
> Perhaps if you give some stats about the machine, someone might have a
> comment.
> Maybe also go into task  manager and take a look at startup items; see if
> you can get rid of anything.
> Maybe the manufacturer  put some bloatware on the system that is messing
> with it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
> Sent: August 10, 2021 08:00 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA and Windows10
>
> Hello:
> I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10, that
> the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
> When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it to
> start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for the
> characters to appear.
> I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is a
> problem with the operating system windows10.
> I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem at any
> time with windows7 or even XP.
> I suspected at a time that the various security installations were causing
> the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has still not solved
> the problem.
> So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
> Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
> Ibrahim.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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John Altmeyer
 

For what it's worth, my Dell Latitude E6510 with 4GB of ram performs respectably on Windows 10.  There is a slight lag, but some of that I attribute to the 5400 RPM hard drive. 


On 08/10/2021 9:14 PM, Gene wrote:
8GB of RAM is adequate for the typical Windows 10 user.  While I’ve seen comments that performance is faster with 16GB, 8gb does not result in the kind of slowness described.  There are a lot of blind screen-reader users with 8GB of RAM, using Windows 10. 
 
It may be that the computer can run Windows 7 well, but that it doesn’t have the power to run Windows 10 well. 
 
What synthesizer are you using?  One thing that might help is using a different synthesizer.  For example, buying Eloquence if you are using speech that requires much more power, might make a significant difference.  You can try an Eloquence demo and see. 
 
But if you are using something like E-Speak, trying a Eloquence demo won’t help.  E-Speak is already responsive in less powerful machines. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA and Windows10
 
Ibrahim, there's a lot you don't tell us--specifically, how much ram
this machine has, how much free hard drive space, how many processors,
& their speed.

There is a Windows 10 compatibility tester that MS has. Did you run
this? If you have < 8gb of ram, then I suggest that Windows 10 is not
a good choice, especially when running adaptive technology. I would
also say that because this is an upgrade, there may be incompatible
apps or drivers.

On 8/10/21, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
> It might be some kind of app running in the background that's slowing down
> your system, but it really shouldn’t' be Defender ora ny of the Microsoft
> programmes, which should work pretty smoothly together.
> I have had big system slowdowns sometimes after a huge amount of disk
> activity, but it happens maybe once every few months  or less and a restart
> always sets everything right.
> The problem you are experiencing must be specific to your system.
> Perhaps if you give some stats about the machine, someone might have a
> comment.
> Maybe also go into task  manager and take a look at startup items; see if
> you can get rid of anything.
> Maybe the manufacturer  put some bloatware on the system that is messing
> with it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
> Sent: August 10, 2021 08:00 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA and Windows10
>
> Hello:
> I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10, that
> the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
> When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it to
> start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for the
> characters to appear.
> I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is a
> problem with the operating system windows10.
> I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem at any
> time with windows7 or even XP.
> I suspected at a time that the various security installations were causing
> the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has still not solved
> the problem.
> So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
> Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
> Ibrahim.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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valiant8086
 

Hi.


The issue with typing is probably due to the auto spell check functionality. You can turn it off in the pc settings app. Being laggy just in general could be caused by not having enough ram and meanwhile running from a hard drive instead of an ssd. Is that the case for your machine? More than 4gb is a good idea if the system has a standard hard drive. At 4gb it's easy to start needing the pagefile stored on disk to hold data that would otherwise fit on the ram if you had more, and the hard drive activity to handle the pagefile will cause it to be busy and not work well when you need to load programs from it and such.


Windows 10 is not quite as responsive as 7 anyway but it's not all that bad. What are the specs of your computer?

On 8/10/2021 7:59 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hello:
I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10,
that the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it
to start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for
the characters to appear.
I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is
a problem with the operating system windows10.
I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem
at any time with windows7 or even XP.
I suspected at a time that the various security installations were
causing the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has
still not solved the problem.
So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
Ibrahim.




tim
 

When you take a box running win7 with no lag at all and then move to win10 it all depends on your computer hardware.

With 4gb of ram your running the minimum for win10 along with a spinning drive expect lag.

With only 4gb ram win10 will take up half that to run. That is why you can still have a slugish computer.

Bring that ram to 16 or better and you don't have to worry about lag.

On this laptop i got 32gb ram, 1tb m.2 drive and its faster then screen reader can handle sometimes. See when I type some words are done so fast you don't hear them for example "I or a' have to back up when really going on keyboard. And I can do 80 to 100 words when pressed.

On 8/10/2021 11:10 PM, valiant8086 wrote:
Hi.


The issue with typing is probably due to the auto spell check functionality. You can turn it off in the pc settings app. Being laggy just in general could be caused by not having enough ram and meanwhile running from a hard drive instead of an ssd. Is that the case for your machine? More than 4gb is a good idea if the system has a standard hard drive. At 4gb it's easy to start needing the pagefile stored on disk to hold data that would otherwise fit on the ram if you had more, and the hard drive activity to handle the pagefile will cause it to be busy and not work well when you need to load programs from it and such.


Windows 10 is not quite as responsive as 7 anyway but it's not all that bad. What are the specs of your computer?





On 8/10/2021 7:59 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hello:
I've come to discover since I upgraded my laptop from windows7 to 10,
that the computer has not been responding to commands instantly.
When I launch a program or a website, it takes a very long time for it
to start. Even when I am typing it sometimes takes some seconds for
the characters to appear.
I don't know if this is a problem with the NVDA screen reader or it is
a problem with the operating system windows10.
I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't have this problem
at any time with windows7 or even XP.
I suspected at a time that the various security installations were
causing the problem, and I disabled windows defender. But this has
still not solved the problem.
So, what can I do. Has anyone had this problem before?
Thanking you in advance for your help in this regard.
Ibrahim.