Q Read alternative

Chris Mullins

Hi Isaac

Thanks for your response.  I now have Music and Audio books working very nicely an I understand your viewpoint re UAC.      




From: Isaac Porat
Sent: 27 March 2020 20:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative


Hi Chris



A few things to add to David's answers...



1. To reduce the voice interraptions,  From the manager press:


Global settings > Messages settings



A task (SpeakOn dialogue) appears



There are two settings for messages and control spoken choose the ones

to suit you.



I recommend the current setting until you are familiar with the program.



2. It does require admin privileges and does the UAC comes up. If I

continue to develop the program in the future this is something I would

consider doing something about.



Personally I find the UAC a waste of time because when enabled, it came

up so many times that I got to automatically acknowledge it which

defeated its purpose in the first place so I disabled it permanently

probably over five years ago, I use Windows defender which does a great

job, and I am careful with security and update Windows and apps etc and

so far I had no issues. Of course this is my opinion and people might

prefer to use the UAC.








On 27/03/2020 10:28, Chris Mullins wrote:

> Hi David

> Thanks for the information.  You have answered the question for the issue that was irritating me the most and now I understand the folder requirements for adding book sources to the library, I can amend the folder structure prior to loading SMS.

> Cheers

> Chris

> From: David Griffith

> Sent: 26 March 2020 15:57

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

> I can answer the second question – yes  whilst the Audio Book player is in focus go to menu and then settings and there, there is a toggle  to speak track information which you can turn to on or off.

> In relation to refreshing the folder path within Speak On, ,I don’t think you can or at least I have not found a way,  however I have got used to habitually shutting down speak on rather than alt tabbing  away from it before adding content.  So this solves this issue for me. It is not a problem for me personally as on my system Speak On loads pretty quickly and the automatic bookmarking feature means that I am always where I was last reading when I return to an app anyway.

> David Griffith

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins

> Sent: 26 March 2020 15:31

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

> Hi Isaac

> I saw a message on the list re SpeakOn and have downloaded it and I am extremely impressed with it’s functionality and ease of use.  There are a few minor annoyances which you may or may not be able to do anything about but I thought I would seek your opinion regarding them.

> Firstly, I am using Windows 10 and set up the desktop shortcut to run as administrator to avoid the UAC allow this software etc window but unfortunately, 3 of the 4 levels of UAC  security trigger a different UAC message “Do you want to allow this app from an unknown publisher to make changes to your device?”.  The only way around this is to turn UAC security off altogether, which also obviates the “run as admin” requirement.  Is it possible to get the software certificated in some way to avoid this message?

> Secondly, when reading an audio book, is there any way to suppress the announcement of the file names as it moves through the files making up the book?  Similarly when playing Music tracks in an album or playlist?

> Thirdly, this is a last minute discovery, so may be covered in the manual and I have missed it.  When trying to add an RNIB flash drive containing 3 Daisy books to the Audio Book library, I had to insert another folder level via windows to the flash drive to allow me to select it and add it’s contents to the Audio Book library.  When I restarted the task and initiated the Add/Library Audio Books Remove folder locations from the Settings sub-menu, The flash drive folder structure was the same as it was before I inserted the additional folder level.  Is there a way to refresh the folder tree view without having  to restart the app?

> Cheers

> Chris

> From: Isaac Porat

> Sent: 25 March 2020 17:04

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

> Hi

> More information on SpeakOn based on questions on this thread and others.

> SpeakOn home page is at:

> http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

> You will find information on the media types its support, links to the

> docs and mailing list.

> The tutorials produced by David Griffith recently found somewhere else

> on this thread are excellent.

> Although the latest version was released in 2016 with one minor

> exception everything works and there are know known bugs.

> SpeakOn supports English only and does not support Braille.

> It does not support PDF either.

> It is recommended by RNIB in the UK for reading their audio books in

> Daisy; SpeakOn supports Daisy 2 used mostly (I think) in Europe. It does

> not support Daisy 3 in the US.

> Being developed in the UK it supports RNIB newspapers and magazines in

> test (epub) and audio.

> It supports the epub format generally.

> It does not support DRM as used mostly in the US

> The NVDA SpeakOn add-on is not necessary to use it but makes sure that

> NVDA does not speakOn when SpeakOn has the focus; it does not speak much

> anyway and I shall release an updated version of this add-on soon to

> this list.

> Regards

> Isaac Porat

> SpeakOn's developer

> On 24/03/2020 19:48, Mallard wrote:

>> Hello,



>> I have one question. Does it support Braille?



>> Thanks,


>> Ciao,


>> Ollie





>> On 24/03/2020 19:04, Daniel Damacena wrote:

>>> Could you send me a link for this?


>>> I am amazed by your description!


>>> Can it read pdf files?


>>> Thank you!


>>> Em 21/03/2020 22:38, David Griffith escreveu:

>>>> I know I am biased because I have done a podcast series on this

>>>> fantastic app but for me the best accessible ePub Book    reader on

>>>> a  PC , either paid, or free , remains by a country mile remains the

>>>> free Speak On Media Suite.


>>>> I am continually amazed it is never ever mentioned as an accessible

>>>> option for reading ePub books.


>>>> Just to mention a few of its features.


>>>> Customisation of book reading voice including on the fly adjustment

>>>> of reading volume and speed  of narration whilst reading a book

>>>> through hotkeys. I know of no other book reader which does this.


>>>> Able to easily navigate through a book by chapter structure ,

>>>> headings, 50 lines, paragraph, sentence line word or character.


>>>> Ability to easily set markers in text of ePub books and copy and

>>>> paste this text out of Speak On into a Word Processor.


>>>> Alternatively control a and control c will copy the chapter as text.


>>>> Ability to get single key press on book location and information.


>>>> Ability to resume reading from last position read on any book even

>>>> if file location has changed.


>>>> Bookmark management  - ability to set and delete bookmarks.


>>>> It even has a virtual book creation function based on a search term

>>>> which is incredibly  useful for study purposes.


>>>> Suppose you have a long academic book you need to search through to

>>>> study a topic, you can in Speak On define a search term and Speak On

>>>> will produce a smaller "virtual eBook” which will consists only of

>>>> the chapters which contain the key phrase or terms in your defined

>>>> search pattern. Again I know of no other accessible eBook reader

>>>> which contains this feature.


>>>> David Griffith


>>>> Just to mention just a few of the features.


>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

>>>> Windows 10


>>>> *From: *Jason White via Groups.Io <mailto:jason@...>

>>>> *Sent: *22 March 2020 00:25

>>>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative


>>>> Another option is to install Thorium Reader from the Microsoft

>>>> Store. It supports EPUB books. Bookshare can be set so that it

>>>> provides downloads in EPUB format.


>>>> *From: *<nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Kingett

>>>> <kingettr@...>

>>>> *Reply-To: *<nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 09:26

>>>> *To: *<nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>>> *Subject: *[nvda] Q Read alternative


>>>> I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm.

>>>> It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links,

>>>> and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main

>>>> website is below, where you can also read the manual.


>>>> I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a

>>>> moment.


>>>> https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/