Reading MS Outlook emails with UIA settings


Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi Group,

In recent times I have seen many discussions around reading Outlook emails with UIA settings on. Today I got a particular instance where I might need to use that.

My teammate sent me a shape from Outlook Insert tab options with an alt on it. NVDA doesn't recognizes it, Narrator reads it comfortably. I guess it can be a protocol issue. Can someone guide me on how to turn on UIA in my NVDA?

Also there is a question from my teammate's side. If she is going to put this in a marketing campaign and send then what is the amount of users she will be actually addressing? Considering that most sr users in her target are NVDA users. In general how many users would be reading Outlook emails with UIA on?

Thanks,
Vaibhav


Mike Sedmak
 

I would highly recommend that you first start by creating a profile
for outlook, that way the UAI changes only apply to outlook.
From the NVDA menu select: Configuration profiles.
You could either create a manual profile so you can turn on UAI only
when desired. Or you could set it as an automatic profile )assuming
you opened the NVDA menu while Outlook was the focused application)



You can enable UAI in the NVDA settings.

preferences -> settings -> advanced
Read the warning and check the box to say you understand the risk

Go to the "Microsoft UI Automation" section
I turned on:

1. Enable selective registration for UI Automation events and property changes
2. Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available

On 5/5/21, Vaibhav Saraf <vaibhav.s.acc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

In recent times I have seen many discussions around reading Outlook emails
with UIA settings on. Today I got a particular instance where I might need
to use that.

My teammate sent me a shape from Outlook Insert tab options with an alt on
it. NVDA doesn't recognizes it, Narrator reads it comfortably. I guess it
can be a protocol issue. Can someone guide me on how to turn on UIA in my
NVDA?

Also there is a question from my teammate's side. If she is going to put
this in a marketing campaign and send then what is the amount of users she
will be actually addressing? Considering that most sr users in her target
are NVDA users. In general how many users would be reading Outlook emails
with UIA on?

Thanks,
Vaibhav






 

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 06:49 AM, Vaibhav Saraf wrote:
In general how many users would be reading Outlook emails with UIA on?
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I don't care what the particular setting happens to be, the base presumption should be that if it's not the default setting it's not likely to have been customized.

It's safest to presume that the majority of your users will have "out of the box" settings for most everything.  Of course, there will be exceptions, and that's exactly what they are, exceptions to the general rule. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


 

Hi,

To add to Brian’s remarks, I would say not many users are aware of UIA settings as it is housed under Advanced settings category, although that might be changing as I and others talked about what they are and how they work in recent posts. As for these settings being optimized for configuration profiles, not really - this is true for selective UIA event registration setting as changing it requires restarting NVDA due to the way NVDA communicates with UI Automation facility on Windows.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading MS Outlook emails with UIA settings

 

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 06:49 AM, Vaibhav Saraf wrote:

In general how many users would be reading Outlook emails with UIA on?

-
I don't care what the particular setting happens to be, the base presumption should be that if it's not the default setting it's not likely to have been customized.

It's safest to presume that the majority of your users will have "out of the box" settings for most everything.  Of course, there will be exceptions, and that's exactly what they are, exceptions to the general rule. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon