Rearrange Pinned Items


Jason Bratcher
 

Hey Brian and others?
I thought as far back as Windows 7 you could pin then rearrange icons on the taskbar either with the mouse or MouseKeys.
Although NVDA's GoldenCursor add-on might be helpful here, too.

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Jason Bratcher


Rowen Cary
 

Hi, Drag and drop add-ons may also help.

Cheers


 

The only way I know of to rearrange icons on the taskbar prior to Windows 11 is drag and drop.  And, yes, in theory you can do it with a screen reader, sans add-ons, with emulated drag and drop, but I, and many others, have found that method lacking.

Javi Dominguez has written an add-on for Drag and Drop, which others have said is very helpful.

In the case of the taskbar, icon movement is constrained and they can only be moved right or left with real drag and drop, so you can use the mouse itself since the drop zone is not random. I know I've written about this in detail, but I think it was on the Windows Access for Screen Reader User's group, as this is not NVDA specific in any meaningful sense, and neither is rearranging icons on the taskbar, which is pretty much the same regardless of the screen reader in use, though add-ons/scripts can help where available.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

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Sarah k Alawami
 

The drag and drop add on actually does not help. Most of the time my curser is not above like it shows. I verify this with the keys that the add on gives.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rowen Cary
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rearrange Pinned Items

 

Hi, Drag and drop add-ons may also help.

Cheers


 

For rearranging pinned items on the taskbar I really recommend using the mouse with left click and drag even if you cannot see, after you've routed the mouse to the screen reader object.  Though things can be dragged in to the taskbar from the desktop to create a pinned item, the reverse is not true.  Pinned items in the taskbar can only be removed or moved left and right relative to each other.

Though you may have to give it a couple of tries to get a sense of how far your mouse moves in the taskbar relative to how far you've moved it left/right with the left mouse button held, you can safely practice moving these icons around, checking their order, and lather, rinse, repeat until you've got the order you want.

Though drag and drop with unconstrained 4-directional movement and movement in and out of windows with focus is an absolute nightmare for a blind user, bidirectional constrained movement within something like the taskbar is significantly easier and practice does make perfect, or something near to it.

This is one of those rare times when actually using the mouse fully as intended works because of exactly what you're trying to do and the inability to drag something out of the taskbar.  But it does take some playing around, as mouse movement speed and the like can vary from computer to computer.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Jason Bratcher
 

Hence why to check your pointer speed and acceleration sliders so you don't have an out-of-control cheese seeker!

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Jason Bratcher