Giles,

            What you've pasted above certainly looks correct.  I'll check the next time I'm logging in, but I doubt that I'm going to find anything different.

            Personally, I've always hated the "star, star, star, star," convention.  If ever there were a place for just a quick tone as each character is typed this would be it.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Em 11/01/2019 12:50, Brian Vogel escreveu:

If ever there were a place for just a quick tone as each character is typed this would be it.

Wow, it sounds interesting to be an add-on or a built-in NVDA concept. Why you don't pass this idea through the NVDA add-ons list? Someone would be interested too.

Marcio,

            I've always wondered whether, buried somewhere deep in settings that I don't know about, whether or not there is a setting for, "When individual password characters are typed, report as:" actually already exists.   There already exists, for instance, the "Progress bar output," setting, which defaults to beep, and has the options speak, and speak and beep as well.

            To me it would make sense to have a parallel setting for password characters, since nothing that's being pronounced when entering them is anything other than a placeholder under normal circumstances.  I'd love to see something like this with options beep/tone, replacement character used.  Some would argue, given how often it seems a small contingent asks for passwords to be announced, that a third option, actual character pressed, should be there, too.   I've become tired of trying to protect people from themselves when it comes to the security of passwords, and there's already an add-on that makes this possible in practice.  It's very poor practice, but it's clear that certain people will go to great lengths to have them announced.  These days, with the near ubiquity of the "show password" button at the end of password entry fields (which I also think insane, but there it is) one can probably get the actual password read character by character if you activate it before entering the password.  These always revert back to "hide password" initially on the next login attempt.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Just confirmed my theory that the password characters themselves will be spoken if one activates the "Show Password" button when it's available, and they're becoming more and more available.

Test was done on the login page for Gmail webmail.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

I never use this kind of button. Seriously, I'm very careful when it comes to passwords.
I always wonder why people want a button to show their passwords on screen if they know what they are typing.
Anyway, back to the passwords as beep tones, I'm sure it would be too easy to do if anyone who know how to do it is interested. It's a matter of spread this idea, I guess.