suddenly object review quit working like it should


Sarah k Alawami
 

I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.

 

I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928

 

The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab  but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.

 

I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other.  Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?

 

Take care all.


Chris Smart
 

what does NVDA+6 do for you?


tim
 

Try reinstalling your addons and see if it starts working again.

On 4/21/2021 11:02 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.

 

I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928

 

The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab  but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.

 

I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other.  Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?

 

Take care all.


Sarah k Alawami
 

I would, except it even fails with add ons disabled, at random times, in apps where it was working before. I just tried that when writing my OP.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

 

Try reinstalling your addons and see if it starts working again.

On 4/21/2021 11:02 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.

 

I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928

 

The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab  but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.

 

I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other.  Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?

 

Take care all.


 

Try uninstalling NVDA, restarting the computer, and reinstalling it afterward, too.   You may need either Narrator or a portable copy of NVDA to do that.

Which brings up another question, if you generate a portable copy of NVDA from a machine that is not currently misbehaving, does it misbehave on the system that is currently having problems.  That's important diagnostic information.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Sarah k Alawami
 

It was set to carrett moves review curser on, I think. And nvda numrow 7
said "nvda focus moves nav object on. Like I said, this will stop working
at random times, sometimes a restart fixes it, sometimes not.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

what does NVDA+6 do for you?


Jacob Kruger
 

Sarah, first thing I would check is if your keyboard input language hasn't changed by accident - keystroke combinations like either left alt + shift, or windows key + space bar can make this occur if you possibly have more than one language installed under win 10.


Secondly, make sure that if you turn on input help, and then press something like numpad insert + numpad 4, it reports that that keystroke is bound to navigating to the previous navigator object?


Secondly, if you have the obj pad add-on installed, you could try using the NVDA + ctrl + tab keystroke to cycle through it's navigation modes, since when it's set to object navigation mode instead of normal mode, you can use just normal cursor keys to try out forms of object navigation?


Here it is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-04-21 05:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.

 

I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928

 

The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab  but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.

 

I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other.  Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?

 

Take care all.


Sarah k Alawami
 

I can’t test on a machine that is not misbehaving. I don’t have one. I could make a fresh portable copy though next time. I’ll be keeping an eye on this. I don’t recall turning off these numrow 6 and numrow 7 settings but now that I have an almost working copy,  I’ll be making a back up and putting it somewhere.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

 

Try uninstalling NVDA, restarting the computer, and reinstalling it afterward, too.   You may need either Narrator or a portable copy of NVDA to do that.

Which brings up another question, if you generate a portable copy of NVDA from a machine that is not currently misbehaving, does it misbehave on the system that is currently having problems.  That's important diagnostic information.
--

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Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep I have obj pad, love it. At the time though screen review was not even working, like no cursers were even lining up. It sort of seems to be working, at least in outlook, kind of except it gets stuck int the bcc field. I won’t worry about it for now though. I have an event to run tomorrow so I really hope this will be fixed by then.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

 

Sarah, first thing I would check is if your keyboard input language hasn't changed by accident - keystroke combinations like either left alt + shift, or windows key + space bar can make this occur if you possibly have more than one language installed under win 10.

 

Secondly, make sure that if you turn on input help, and then press something like numpad insert + numpad 4, it reports that that keystroke is bound to navigating to the previous navigator object?

 

Secondly, if you have the obj pad add-on installed, you could try using the NVDA + ctrl + tab keystroke to cycle through it's navigation modes, since when it's set to object navigation mode instead of normal mode, you can use just normal cursor keys to try out forms of object navigation?

 

Here it is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html

 

Good luck


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-04-21 05:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.

 

I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928

 

The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab  but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.

 

I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other.  Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?

 

Take care all.


tim
 

Sorry, had to laugh at the use of input help. Never seen that do any except tell you the keys you hit. For example, control + v should say paste, but it just states keys hit. Now it should state its use in all apps, but just keys hit.

Now the one in JFW is at least editable to assign what it don't know.


On 4/21/2021 3:05 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Sarah, first thing I would check is if your keyboard input language hasn't changed by accident - keystroke combinations like either left alt + shift, or windows key + space bar can make this occur if you possibly have more than one language installed under win 10.


Secondly, make sure that if you turn on input help, and then press something like numpad insert + numpad 4, it reports that that keystroke is bound to navigating to the previous navigator object?


Secondly, if you have the obj pad add-on installed, you could try using the NVDA + ctrl + tab keystroke to cycle through it's navigation modes, since when it's set to object navigation mode instead of normal mode, you can use just normal cursor keys to try out forms of object navigation?


Here it is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-04-21 05:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.

 

I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928

 

The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab  but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.

 

I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other.  Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?

 

Take care all.


Gene
 

NVDA does tell you that control v is paste. there are times where input help is sensative, swuch as in browse mode. Input help will tell you the quick navigation keys if you are in browse mode. If you are not in a prohgram where browse mode is active, it won't.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: tim
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should



Sorry, had to laugh at the use of input help. Never seen that do any except tell you the keys you hit. For example, control + v should say paste, but it just states keys hit. Now it should state its use in all apps, but just keys hit.

Now the one in JFW is at least editable to assign what it don't know.





On 4/21/2021 3:05 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:


Sarah, first thing I would check is if your keyboard input language hasn't changed by accident - keystroke combinations like either left alt + shift, or windows key + space bar can make this occur if you possibly have more than one language installed under win 10.




Secondly, make sure that if you turn on input help, and then press something like numpad insert + numpad 4, it reports that that keystroke is bound to navigating to the previous navigator object?




Secondly, if you have the obj pad add-on installed, you could try using the NVDA + ctrl + tab keystroke to cycle through it's navigation modes, since when it's set to object navigation mode instead of normal mode, you can use just normal cursor keys to try out forms of object navigation?




Here it is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html




Good luck



Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-04-21 05:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA)

Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.



I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928



The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.



I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other. Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?



Take care all.


Luke Davis
 

Gene, could that possibly be from an add-on? Whether in browse mode or out, control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.

Gene wrote:

NVDA does tell you that control v is paste. there are times where input help is sensative, swuch as in browse mode. Input help will tell you the quick navigation keys if you are in browse mode. If you are not in a prohgram where browse mode is active, it won't.


Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

That stinks.


Kenny Peyatt jr.


 

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:20 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Whether in browse mode or out, control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.
-
The description of NVDA Help (NVDA+1):  Pressing any key in this mode will report the key, and the description of any NVDA command associated with it
 
Note well what follows the word "and."  CTRL+V is not an NVDA Command, it is a Windows Command.  My understanding of both NVDA Help and its JAWS analog are that each will only present descriptions of key sequences that are associated with the screen reader functions, and nothing else.  Windows functions are not part of JAWS or NVDA nor are specific program shortcuts that the screen reader is interacting with.  I'd expect that giving any shortcut sequence not associated with NVDA itself will result in silence.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Sarah k Alawami
 

I can attest to that with nvda and voiceover. I thought though jaws did say "pastes the contents of the clipboard," etc. Or at least this was the case in 2002 with jaws 3.1.

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On 22 Apr 2021, at 15:10, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:20 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Whether in browse mode or out, control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.
-
The description of NVDA Help (NVDA+1):  Pressing any key in this mode will report the key, and the description of any NVDA command associated with it
 
Note well what follows the word "and."  CTRL+V is not an NVDA Command, it is a Windows Command.  My understanding of both NVDA Help and its JAWS analog are that each will only present descriptions of key sequences that are associated with the screen reader functions, and nothing else.  Windows functions are not part of JAWS or NVDA nor are specific program shortcuts that the screen reader is interacting with.  I'd expect that giving any shortcut sequence not associated with NVDA itself will result in silence.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Chris Smart
 

2002 is relevant?



On 2021-04-22 7:00 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can attest to that with nvda and voiceover. I thought though jaws did say "pastes the contents of the clipboard," etc. Or at least this was the case in 2002 with jaws 3.1.

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Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Finally, you can support my work on happs, the network of now.

On 22 Apr 2021, at 15:10, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:20 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Whether in browse mode or out, control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.
-
The description of NVDA Help (NVDA+1):  Pressing any key in this mode will report the key, and the description of any NVDA command associated with it
 
Note well what follows the word "and."  CTRL+V is not an NVDA Command, it is a Windows Command.  My understanding of both NVDA Help and its JAWS analog are that each will only present descriptions of key sequences that are associated with the screen reader functions, and nothing else.  Windows functions are not part of JAWS or NVDA nor are specific program shortcuts that the screen reader is interacting with.  I'd expect that giving any shortcut sequence not associated with NVDA itself will result in silence.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Chris Smart
 

It doesn't have screenreader-specific help associated with itt, because it's a standard Windows keyboard shortcut, and not specific to any screenreader.

On 2021-04-22 4:20 p.m., Luke Davis wrote:
Gene, could that possibly be from an add-on? Whether in browse mode or out, control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.

Gene wrote:

NVDA does tell you that control v is paste.  there are times where input help is sensative, swuch as in browse mode.  Input help will tell you the quick navigation keys if you are in browse mode.  If you are not in a prohgram where browse mode is active, it won't.



Gene
 

It may, I use the Clipspeak add-on and that may cause the announcement.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

Gene, could that possibly be from an add-on? Whether in browse mode or out,
control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.

Gene wrote:

NVDA does tell you that control v is paste. there are times where input help is sensative, swuch as in browse mode. Input help will tell you the quick navigation keys if you are in browse mode. If you are not in a prohgram where browse mode is active, it won't.


Gene
 

I just checked. I use the Clipspeak add-on and when I disable it, control v doesn't say paste.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

Gene, could that possibly be from an add-on? Whether in browse mode or out,
control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.

Gene wrote:

NVDA does tell you that control v is paste. there are times where input help is sensative, swuch as in browse mode. Input help will tell you the quick navigation keys if you are in browse mode. If you are not in a prohgram where browse mode is active, it won't.


Sarah k Alawami
 

Well, it is for me as that is the only time I got computer training. So yes, for me it is relevant. And jaws did say “ control v, pastes in text from the clipboard” but  then again FS holds your hand too much, which is why I love  NVDA. It expects you to know what to do. No hand holding. It just works, most of the time.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] suddenly object review quit working like it should

 

2002 is relevant?

 

 

On 2021-04-22 7:00 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can attest to that with nvda and voiceover. I thought though jaws did say "pastes the contents of the clipboard," etc. Or at least this was the case in 2002 with jaws 3.1.

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Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, you can support my work on happs, the network of now.

On 22 Apr 2021, at 15:10, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:20 PM, Luke Davis wrote:

Whether in browse mode or out, control+v does not announce as paste in input help as far as I can tell.

-
The description of NVDA Help (NVDA+1):  
Pressing any key in this mode will report the key, and the description of any NVDA command associated with it
 
Note well what follows the word "and."  CTRL+V is not an NVDA Command, it is a Windows Command.  My understanding of both NVDA Help and its JAWS analog are that each will only present descriptions of key sequences that are associated with the screen reader functions, and nothing else.  Windows functions are not part of JAWS or NVDA nor are specific program shortcuts that the screen reader is interacting with.  I'd expect that giving any shortcut sequence not associated with NVDA itself will result in silence.
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Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon