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locked thunderbird latest 78 bug


enes sarıbaş
 

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.


Sarah k Alawami
 

I think I have that issue , but i just up and down arrow to find the one tone as the list will rap.

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On 31 Oct 2020, at 9:01, enes sarıbaş wrote:

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.


 

See topic, Thunderbird Help Needed, on the TechTalk Group.
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enes sarıbaş
 

Hello,

In that topic, the sender did not descirbe the solution they found.

On 10/31/2020 11:14 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
See topic, Thunderbird Help Needed, on the TechTalk Group.
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I thought someone had proposed the one she'd used.  But, you could ask.  Someone's got one, even if it's a workaround.
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Dan Beaver
 

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






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Chris Smart
 

Yep, no problems here either.



On 2020-10-31 12:34 p.m., Dan Beaver wrote:

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






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As a general approach, when I hear people saying, "I'm not having a problem," while I am:

1. I do a repair install, if such is available, or download the latest installer and do an install-over install.  This will often correct a problem induced by a "burp" during a software update.

2. If Step 1 does not work, then an uninstall of the offending software, a system restart, then a reinstall using the latest installer, which I download before starting the process.  In many cases, and Thunderbird is one of those, uninstalling does not remove user settings unless you specify it do so.  So after a reinstall your accounts, etc., are still there.

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Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It's working fine for me too.



On 10/31/2020 9:34 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Brian,

The following is a workaround.

Go to the editable field, and you will be able to read it with ctrl left and right arrows, press enter to be able to edit it.

On 10/31/2020 12:03 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
As a general approach, when I hear people saying, "I'm not having a problem," while I am:

1. I do a repair install, if such is available, or download the latest installer and do an install-over install.  This will often correct a problem induced by a "burp" during a software update.

2. If Step 1 does not work, then an uninstall of the offending software, a system restart, then a reinstall using the latest installer, which I download before starting the process.  In many cases, and Thunderbird is one of those, uninstalling does not remove user settings unless you specify it do so.  So after a reinstall your accounts, etc., are still there.

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Gene
 

I'm not sure what problem you are having. When I use autocomplete, that is type something like a name in the field, I can down arrow through the available addresses and they are read. Also, the part of the address is read if I type and then do nothing, that I haven't typed is read when the field is populated with the address. For example, if I type letters autocomplete reads @nytimes.com if I have punctuation set to speak the at sign and just nytimes.com if I have punctuation set not to speak. I want to make sure just what you are discussing.

If I tab once, after using autocomplete and an address is selected, the use left arrow suggestion is given. I have moved from the autocomplete area to the actual address field. I don't know what accounts for your problem. I'm using the latest version, 78.4.0. I'm using the portable version but I'm very doubtful that matters.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] thunderbird latest 78 bug

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird, when an address is autocompleted into to
field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather
significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions
spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.


enes sarıbaş
 

previously, I was unable to arrow through address or edit it, but I have figured out the solution.

On 10/31/2020 12:28 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what problem you are having.  When I use autocomplete, that is type something like a name in the field, I can down arrow through the available addresses and they are read. Also, the part of the address is read if I type and then do nothing, that I haven't typed is read when the field is populated with the address.  For example, if I type letters autocomplete reads @nytimes.com if I have punctuation set to speak the at sign and just nytimes.com if I have punctuation set not to speak.  I want to make sure just what you are discussing.

If I tab once, after using autocomplete and an address is selected, the use left arrow suggestion is given.  I have moved from the autocomplete area to the actual address field.  I don't know what accounts for your problem.  I'm using the latest version, 78.4.0.  I'm using the portable version but I'm very doubtful that matters.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] thunderbird latest 78 bug

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to
field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather
significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions
spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.









Don H
 

So is the quick folder key navagation addon for thunderbird now working with the latest 78 version of thunderbird?


On 10/31/2020 12:04 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

It's working fine for me too.



On 10/31/2020 9:34 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 02:13 PM, Don H wrote:
So is the quick folder key navagation addon for thunderbird now working with the latest 78 version of thunderbird?
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There has been a new version of this available since the day of introduction of the latest Thunderbird.  Unfortunately, there does not exist something in Thunderbird that is akin to Add-On Updater in NVDA, that will detect if you are using an older, incompatible version of an extension.  If you have not done so, remove the existing extension, go to the Thunderbird extensions page, and get the latest one.

See this tutorial I wrote some years ago if necessary.  I cannot guarantee that my number of TABs count will necessarily be current, but you should have the screen reader announcing such that you know that you've landed where you need to if they aren't:

IMPORTANT:  For those using Thunderbird with a screen reader I strongly suggest installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension.  You will only need to install this extension once for any instance of Thunderbird you might be using.  This allows you to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  Without it, this does not always work.   You will only need to install this extension once for any instance of Thunderbird you might be using.  If you are using JAWS or NVDA, searching for this add on within Thunderbird is quite simple:

·         Activate the Tools Menu (ALT+T), add-ons option (followed by A) and tab 3 times, at which point you should be on the Extensions Pane.  If you happen to land on any other pane then use Down Arrow (or Up Arrow) until you hear Extensions.

·         Tab 2 times, which lands you in the search all add-ons edit box. 

·         Then type in Quick Folder Key Navigation, hit enter, and wait a few seconds for the search to complete. 

·         Tab 5 times more gain focus on the list of results.  Then hit Down Arrow to start navigating the list.  Quick Folder Key Navigation should be the first result.

·         Tab 2 times to land on the Install button then hit enter.

·         After the install completes you need to exit Thunderbird and start it up again for this extension to become active

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At this point I am locking this topic, too, as it really has nothing to do with NVDA per se.  If additional discussion regarding Thunderbird issues in the absence of any changes to NVDA are needed, they need to occur on the Chat Subgroup.  There may be bugs that creep in with any update, but when that update is with a given piece of application software it's likely due to that application software, not NVDA itself.

 
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