trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
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Dan Beaver
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.
Thanks.
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
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tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch back to basic html.
On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old --
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Laz
Normally there's a link at the top of the page that says Basic HTML
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view however at times, it doesn't show up. Just refresh the page as many times as necessary until it shows up, Usually it only takes a couple of refreshes. Stay safe, Laz
On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old --
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Gene
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.
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Gene
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From: Nevzat Adil Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch back to basic html. On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote: I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old -- Nevzat Adil Library of Congress Certified Literary Braille Proofreader C: 512 502 4403 e-mail: nevzatadil@gmail.com Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader
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gene, yes, i had the problem which you mentioned.
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i asked one of my relatives to do this for me.
On 11/13/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I --
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Dan Beaver
Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all. Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit.
I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode. I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either.
When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode. It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page.
This is getting super frustrating.
Thanks.
Dan Beaver On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.
Thanks.
Dan Beaver Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Gene
I said that the button is at the top of the page. At times, you won't see something in browse mode or the virtual pc cursor, whatever your browser calls it. Go to the top of the page, turn it off, and shift tab two or three times. You will see the button.
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If you don't see something you should and its something you can tab to like an edit field, a button, etc. turn off the virtual pc cursor or browse mode and look Gene
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From: Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all. Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit. I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode. I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either. When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode. It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page. This is getting super frustrating. Thanks. Dan Beaver On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote: It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail This is getting super frustrating. Thanks. Dan Beaver Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch back to basic html. On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com wrote: I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this. Thanks. -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Dan Beaver
Yep, turning browse mode off does indeed let me see the button. However, in Firefox it takes quite a few shift-tabs to get to it. It isn't very convenient at all.
I appreciate your help though.
Sure wish I could turn it on permanently though.
Dan Beaver On 11/13/2020 12:31 PM, Gene wrote:
I said that the button is at the top of the page. At times, you won't see something in browse mode or the virtual pc cursor, whatever your browser calls it. Go to the top of the page, turn it off, and shift tab two or three times. You will see the button. -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Gene
I had to refresh the page when I was playing with this after I sent my message. Another list member said that you have to refresh the page sometimes. Its much more convenient to use a Chrome-based browser such as Chrome or Brave or Edge if you want to have easy access to the button. I have Firefox on my machine in case it works better on this or that site, but my experience is that, in general, Chrome-based browsers crash less and work better with screen-readers when moving through text. Sometimes, on The New York Times page, when I move by headings to move from article to article, there are movement problems where you try to move but stay where you are instead. I haven't played to see if this is common, there may be something about that site, but regardless, Chrome browsers work better with screen-readers.
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Gene
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From: Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail Yep, turning browse mode off does indeed let me see the button. However, in Firefox it takes quite a few shift-tabs to get to it. It isn't very convenient at all. I appreciate your help though. Sure wish I could turn it on permanently though. Dan Beaver On 11/13/2020 12:31 PM, Gene wrote: I said that the button is at the top of the page. At times, you won't see something in browse mode or the virtual pc cursor, whatever your browser calls it. Go to the top of the page, turn it off, and shift tab two or three times. You will see the button. If you don't see something you should and its something you can tab to like an edit field, a button, etc. turn off the virtual pc cursor or browse mode and look Gene ----Original Message----- From: Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all. Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit. I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode. I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either. When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode. It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page. This is getting super frustrating. Thanks. Dan Beaver On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote: It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail This is getting super frustrating. Thanks. Dan Beaver Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch back to basic html. On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com wrote: I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this. Thanks. -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Laz
Why don't you navigate by buttons instead of just tabbing and shift tabbing?
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To make it the default look for the link that says somehting like make basic.html the default view which is close to the top of the page. Laz
On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep, turning browse mode off does indeed let me see the button. However, in --
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Arlene
Confirmed. I’ve done this with both Jaws and NVDA. Not at once. I did use them both one at a time. Gene’s right. It is usually the first link you see. With my old windows 7 I had to refresh the page a bunch of times. Jaws 14 sometimes did not work well on the gmail site. I used the whatever version of NVDA to get the job done. Now with windows ten I can use either one.
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From: Gene
Sent: November 13, 2020 7:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch back to basic html.
On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote: > I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old > emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode > but > couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There > doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this. > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) > >
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Louise Pfau
Hi. I had the same problem after my service provider migrated their service over to the Google platform, even after I'd activated the "Set Basic HTML as default" link. I'm using Microsoft Edge. I talked to my service provider's Technical Support department, and they sent me a link that tells the server to load Basic HTML as the default. I've posted it below my name. I hope this helps.
Louise https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/
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Kerryn Gunness
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it is best with chrome
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Arlene
I’m using Chrome right now. Been using it since I got this windows ten box. Gmail works better with it.
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From: Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: November 13, 2020 1:39 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
it is best with chrome
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