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update on my Gmail issue


Bob Cavanaugh
 

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob


Kerryn Gunness
 

My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there? Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment

On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob





hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz

On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there? Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob







Bob Cavanaugh
 

I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob












Kerryn Gunness
 

hey bob

thanks

re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved
no open dialogue box opened

where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob












Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there? Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob








 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:11 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's the basic HTML.
-
As an aside, the regular Gmail webmail interface is now a lot more accessible that it was way back when.  I used to suggest only using the basic HTML interface, but no more.  Particularly if you activate the Google keyboard shortcuts and accessibility settings for the regular interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


Bob Cavanaugh
 

Are you using basic HTML or standard view? If Basic HTML, the easiest
way to find it is to navigate by heading from the top of the page, it
will be there as a link and a heading. As for attachments, it doesn't
open a dialog right away, it opens a second page where there are 10
more browse buttons that you then have to use just like the first one.
If you're using standard view, I'll have to test this out and get back
to you.

On 12/11/20, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
hey bob

thanks

re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved
no open dialogue box opened

where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob





















Gene
 

Or you can just use your screen-reader's search to search for cont from the top of the page. You will find contacts on the first search. Search is one of the most powerful and underused means of efficient navigation. Most of the time, typing the first four letters of what you are looking for will be sufficient to find the item in the first search or the first repetition of the search.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue

Are you using basic HTML or standard view? If Basic HTML, the easiest
way to find it is to navigate by heading from the top of the page, it
will be there as a link and a heading. As for attachments, it doesn't
open a dialog right away, it opens a second page where there are 10
more browse buttons that you then have to use just like the first one.
If you're using standard view, I'll have to test this out and get back
to you.

On 12/11/20, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
hey bob

thanks

re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved
no open dialogue box opened

where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob





















Gene
 

You may already know this, but I just played around with contacts in the simple HTML view. If you check the check boxes for all the contacts you want to include in a message, then press the compose button, the message will open with all the addresses you checked.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue

Or you can just use your screen-reader's search to search for cont from the
top of the page. You will find contacts on the first search. Search is one
of the most powerful and underused means of efficient navigation. Most of
the time, typing the first four letters of what you are looking for will be
sufficient to find the item in the first search or the first repetition of
the search.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue

Are you using basic HTML or standard view? If Basic HTML, the easiest
way to find it is to navigate by heading from the top of the page, it
will be there as a link and a heading. As for attachments, it doesn't
open a dialog right away, it opens a second page where there are 10
more browse buttons that you then have to use just like the first one.
If you're using standard view, I'll have to test this out and get back
to you.

On 12/11/20, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io>
wrote:
hey bob

thanks

re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved
no open dialogue box opened

where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob





















 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 06:13 PM, Gene wrote:
Search is one of the most powerful and underused means of efficient navigation.
-
Amen!  This bears repeating, as often as necessary, until screen reader search use increases significantly.  It also allows for very quick determination if something suspected to be present is actually present or not, including controls like buttons.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


Chris Mullins
 

Hi

It’s at heading lev3el 3 so press 3 a few times when in browse mode and you should land on the Contacts link.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: 11 December 2020 22:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue

 

Are you using basic HTML or standard view? If Basic HTML, the easiest

way to find it is to navigate by heading from the top of the page, it

will be there as a link and a heading. As for attachments, it doesn't

open a dialog right away, it opens a second page where there are 10

more browse buttons that you then have to use just like the first one.

If you're using standard view, I'll have to test this out and get back

to you.

 

On 12/11/20, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

> hey bob

> thanks

> re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved

> no open dialogue box opened

> where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue

> I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never

> installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's

> the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for

> that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate

> the button that says "attach more files."

> On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

>> Hi

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>> Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client

>> that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.

>> 

>> 

>> Far easier I guess than the web version.

>> 

>> 

>> Gene nz

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>> On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:

>>> My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?

>>> Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment

>>>> On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts

>>>> list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names

>>>> associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing

>>>> messages.

>>>> Bob

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

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>

 

 

 

 

 


Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


Are you using basic HTML or standard view? If Basic HTML, the easiest
way to find it is to navigate by heading from the top of the page, it
will be there as a link and a heading. As for attachments, it doesn't
open a dialog right away, it opens a second page where there are 10
more browse buttons that you then have to use just like the first one.
If you're using standard view, I'll have to test this out and get back
to you.

On 12/11/20, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
hey bob

thanks

re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved
no open dialogue box opened

where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob





















Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks jene brian and others

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


Or you can just use your screen-reader's search to search for cont from the top of the page. You will find contacts on the first search. Search is one of the most powerful and underused means of efficient navigation. Most of the time, typing the first four letters of what you are looking for will be sufficient to find the item in the first search or the first repetition of the search.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue

Are you using basic HTML or standard view? If Basic HTML, the easiest
way to find it is to navigate by heading from the top of the page, it
will be there as a link and a heading. As for attachments, it doesn't
open a dialog right away, it opens a second page where there are 10
more browse buttons that you then have to use just like the first one.
If you're using standard view, I'll have to test this out and get back
to you.

On 12/11/20, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
hey bob

thanks

re the attachment, i tried that, but the focus moved
no open dialogue box opened

where do i find the link for contacts i dont see it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Cavanaugh" <cavbob1993@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on my Gmail issue


I was interested in Thunderbird about 10 years ago, but never
installed it. I'm fine with using the web interface, as long as it's
the basic HTML. As for getting a list of contacts, there's a link for
that in your navigation. To send more than one attachment, activate
the button that says "attach more files."

On 12/11/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Are you aware you can get your g mails through the thunder bird client
that is how I do it at the moment or actually for years.


Far easier I guess than the web version.


Gene nz


On 12/12/2020 7:53 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
My question is can someone get a list of contacts how do you get there?
Also how are you are able to send more than one attachment
On 9 Dec 2020, at 7:29 PM, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just discovered something that is a little strange. The contacts
list in Gmail's basic HTML view is also a table, and NVDA reads names
associated with the checkboxes on that page, but not when browsing
messages.
Bob