Using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT & RDP


Russell James
 

Greetings,

I wanted to see if anyone has used NVDA with Windows 11 IOT from another computer using Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and if there are any tips/tricks that you can share.

I don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports this without any additional software installation/configuration.

I also don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports Narator with the initial installation.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Russ


Brian's Mail list account
 

There was an interesting demo of NVDA and the beta of Remote Incident Manager on last weeks Mosen at Large podcast. Sounded like the answer to many prayers, except the pricing when it comes out after the beta version. Just my view.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell James" <4rjames@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT & RDP


Greetings,

I wanted to see if anyone has used NVDA with Windows 11 IOT from another
computer using Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and if there are any
tips/tricks that you can share.

I don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports this without any additional
software installation/configuration.

I also don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports Narator with the initial
installation.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Russ





Russell James
 

Brian,

Thank you for your response

My Understanding is that Remote Incident Manager is intended to pick up where Quick Assist left off...
I think it may also be more integrated with things like MS end point management.
I don't know if it will be a replacement for things like Remote Desktop Protocol
Which provides a user with general remote access to another computer

I'm interested in knowing if anyone is using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT as compared to Windows 11 Desktop.
I don't know if Narator is included in Windows 11 IOT
I assume these will be supported so it may be a matter of installation/configuration

Thank you

Russ


On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 3:02 AM Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
There was an interesting demo of NVDA and the beta of Remote Incident
Manager on last weeks Mosen at Large podcast. Sounded like the answer to
many prayers, except the pricing when it comes out after the beta version.
Just my view.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell James" <4rjames@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT & RDP


> Greetings,
>
> I wanted to see if anyone has used NVDA with Windows 11 IOT from another
> computer using Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and if there are any
> tips/tricks that you can share.
>
> I don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports this without any additional
> software installation/configuration.
>
> I also don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports Narator with the initial
> installation.
>
> Thanks for anything you can share!
>
> Russ
>
>
>
>
>
>







Gene
 

I could quote small later parts of the message to bolster my case, but this should be adequate.

Thank you for sharing this article and for allowing the discussion!
I enjoyed reading the article and was not aware of some of the history.
I was reading the article using Firefox and NVDA
I ran into multiple accessibility issues while reading
Probably because I was reading using explore by mouse...  :-)

If the person wasn't reading the article as that appears to indeicate he was, I'd like to know.  He has never said he didn't.  If he says he didn't and explain what he did, I'll be happy to address that.

Nothing I said is unclearly stated and it is the reasonable understanding of what he says he did.

Gene

On 8/4/2022 12:54 PM, Russell James wrote:
Brian,

Thank you for your response

My Understanding is that Remote Incident Manager is intended to pick up where Quick Assist left off...
I think it may also be more integrated with things like MS end point management.
I don't know if it will be a replacement for things like Remote Desktop Protocol
Which provides a user with general remote access to another computer

I'm interested in knowing if anyone is using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT as compared to Windows 11 Desktop.
I don't know if Narator is included in Windows 11 IOT
I assume these will be supported so it may be a matter of installation/configuration

Thank you

Russ

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 3:02 AM Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
There was an interesting demo of NVDA and the beta of Remote Incident
Manager on last weeks Mosen at Large podcast. Sounded like the answer to
many prayers, except the pricing when it comes out after the beta version.
Just my view.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell James" <4rjames@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT & RDP


> Greetings,
>
> I wanted to see if anyone has used NVDA with Windows 11 IOT from another
> computer using Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and if there are any
> tips/tricks that you can share.
>
> I don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports this without any additional
> software installation/configuration.
>
> I also don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports Narator with the initial
> installation.
>
> Thanks for anything you can share!
>
> Russ
>
>
>
>
>
>








 

Hi,

In theory, yes, you can install NVDA on Windows 11 IoT Enterprise and connect to that system via Remote Desktop Connection, but remember that Windows IoT is really meant for specialized scenarios.

Cheers,

Joseph


Andrew Eliasz
 

Thanks
Take care
Andrew

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 at 20:10, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I could quote small later parts of the message to bolster my case, but this should be adequate.

Thank you for sharing this article and for allowing the discussion!
I enjoyed reading the article and was not aware of some of the history.
I was reading the article using Firefox and NVDA
I ran into multiple accessibility issues while reading
Probably because I was reading using explore by mouse...  :-)

If the person wasn't reading the article as that appears to indeicate he was, I'd like to know.  He has never said he didn't.  If he says he didn't and explain what he did, I'll be happy to address that.

Nothing I said is unclearly stated and it is the reasonable understanding of what he says he did.

Gene


Russell James
 

Hi Joseph,

Thank you for your response!

I'm not surprised and pleased to hear that Windows 11 IOT will support the NVDA screen reader.

I'm also pleased to hear Windows 11 IOT will support RDP clients.!
Do you know if:
The RDP support on Windows 11 IOT is part of the default installation?
The setup on Windows 11 IOT is similar to what was done in the past on previous Windows versions?

Thank you, this leaves me thinking I will be able to work with these special devices running Windows 11 IOT!  :-)

Russ


On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 5:26 PM Andrew Eliasz <andrew.eliasz@...> wrote:
Thanks
Take care
Andrew

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 at 20:10, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I could quote small later parts of the message to bolster my case, but this should be adequate.

Thank you for sharing this article and for allowing the discussion!
I enjoyed reading the article and was not aware of some of the history.
I was reading the article using Firefox and NVDA
I ran into multiple accessibility issues while reading
Probably because I was reading using explore by mouse...  :-)

If the person wasn't reading the article as that appears to indeicate he was, I'd like to know.  He has never said he didn't.  If he says he didn't and explain what he did, I'll be happy to address that.

Nothing I said is unclearly stated and it is the reasonable understanding of what he says he did.

Gene


 

Hi,

RDP: I think so as Windows 11 IoT Enterprise (that's the actual name of the SKU, by the way) is a version of Windows 11 Enterprise designed for IoT scenarios. But that's where the similarities pretty much ends. That's why I said "in theory" when talking about installing NVDA on a remote IoT device - I expect admins to be using Group Policy and other mechanisms to lock down the device in some way.

Cheers,

Joseph