What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA


George Kerscher
 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

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David Goldfield
 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


Cyrille
 

Hello

The what's new of NVDA 2022.1 beta says:
• NVDA no longer causes 64-bit versions of Notepad++ 8.3 and above to crash. (#13311)

So it should be fixed in the next release and is already in the current beta. I have not tested myself however.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Rui Fontes
 

I am using NotePad++ 64-bit in Windows 11 with last Alpha of NVDA and NotePad++ opens without any problem...


And, by the way, have you tested without NPPcryt?


Rui Fontes



Às 21:05 de 03/04/2022, Cyrille via groups.io escreveu:

Hello

The what's new of NVDA 2022.1 beta says:
• NVDA no longer causes 64-bit versions of Notepad++ 8.3 and above to crash. (#13311)

So it should be fixed in the next release and is already in the current beta. I have not tested myself however.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Sarah k Alawami
 

It’s a bit late for that. Mine crashes with a 2000 character markdown set pasted from the clipboard. I thought I was the only one having the problem. This will not answer your question, but this at least gives me another shoulder to cry on. lol!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 12:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

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Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

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Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


Sarah k Alawami
 

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


Stan Bobbitt
 

I installed the 32 bit version of 8.3.3 which works fine on my 64 bit machine for now.

HTH,

StanB

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

On another list, this question was asked. Apparently there is some sort of issue specifically with the 64 bit version of Notepad Plus plus and NVDA. Supposedly it is fixed for next full release.  However, I see no real advantage of the 64 bit over the 32 bit. I did n fact confirm the issue when for testing purposes, I did a complete uninstall of the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit version. To remedy this, I then uninstalled the 64 bit version and installed the older version 8.29 and then used what is apparently a combined version of the 8.33 installer, it detected the 32 bit version, installed a 32 bit version and the problem is solved for now.

if anyone can tell me the benefits of the 64 bit over the 32 bit version, I would be interested in the information.


On 4/3/2022 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


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Gene
 

I saw on a list, I don't remember which one, that if you run the beta, the problem is solved.  But I see no point in the 64bit version.  What benefit is their in having a 64 bit text editor?  64 bit programs can handle large amounts of data more quickly and there are certain programs that benefit but a lot don't.  I've read that one kind of program that benefits is a data-base program.

Gene

On 4/3/2022 11:31 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

On another list, this question was asked. Apparently there is some sort of issue specifically with the 64 bit version of Notepad Plus plus and NVDA. Supposedly it is fixed for next full release.  However, I see no real advantage of the 64 bit over the 32 bit. I did n fact confirm the issue when for testing purposes, I did a complete uninstall of the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit version. To remedy this, I then uninstalled the 64 bit version and installed the older version 8.29 and then used what is apparently a combined version of the 8.33 installer, it detected the 32 bit version, installed a 32 bit version and the problem is solved for now.

if anyone can tell me the benefits of the 64 bit over the 32 bit version, I would be interested in the information.


On 4/3/2022 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


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George Kerscher
 

Hi,

 

I am running now the 2022.1 beta 2 in continuous, not installed. Notepadd++ continues to crash.

 

I do have NPPCrypt installed.

 

I find it to be a reail pain to install and remove plugins. The interface is difficult to use.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

I saw on a list, I don't remember which one, that if you run the beta, the problem is solved.  But I see no point in the 64bit version.  What benefit is their in having a 64 bit text editor?  64 bit programs can handle large amounts of data more quickly and there are certain programs that benefit but a lot don't.  I've read that one kind of program that benefits is a data-base program.

Gene

On 4/3/2022 11:31 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

On another list, this question was asked. Apparently there is some sort of issue specifically with the 64 bit version of Notepad Plus plus and NVDA. Supposedly it is fixed for next full release.  However, I see no real advantage of the 64 bit over the 32 bit. I did n fact confirm the issue when for testing purposes, I did a complete uninstall of the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit version. To remedy this, I then uninstalled the 64 bit version and installed the older version 8.29 and then used what is apparently a combined version of the 8.33 installer, it detected the 32 bit version, installed a 32 bit version and the problem is solved for now.

if anyone can tell me the benefits of the 64 bit over the 32 bit version, I would be interested in the information.

On 4/3/2022 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 



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Quentin Christensen
 

It might be NPPCrypt which is conflicting perhaps?

Using NVDA 2022.1 Beta 3 and Notepad++ 8.3.3 seems to work fine for me without any add-ons in either program.  Do you mean the interface for add-ons in NVDA is difficult, or Notepad++?  I must admit I haven't really looked at the add-on interface in Notepad++, but just to make sure you know in NVDA, if you want to disable add-ons to see if that helps a problem, you can press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter, to restart NVDA without add-ons.  The following time you start NVDA, it will prompt to re-enable add-ons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 2:18 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am running now the 2022.1 beta 2 in continuous, not installed. Notepadd++ continues to crash.

 

I do have NPPCrypt installed.

 

I find it to be a reail pain to install and remove plugins. The interface is difficult to use.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

I saw on a list, I don't remember which one, that if you run the beta, the problem is solved.  But I see no point in the 64bit version.  What benefit is their in having a 64 bit text editor?  64 bit programs can handle large amounts of data more quickly and there are certain programs that benefit but a lot don't.  I've read that one kind of program that benefits is a data-base program.

Gene

On 4/3/2022 11:31 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

On another list, this question was asked. Apparently there is some sort of issue specifically with the 64 bit version of Notepad Plus plus and NVDA. Supposedly it is fixed for next full release.  However, I see no real advantage of the 64 bit over the 32 bit. I did n fact confirm the issue when for testing purposes, I did a complete uninstall of the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit version. To remedy this, I then uninstalled the 64 bit version and installed the older version 8.29 and then used what is apparently a combined version of the 8.33 installer, it detected the 32 bit version, installed a 32 bit version and the problem is solved for now.

if anyone can tell me the benefits of the 64 bit over the 32 bit version, I would be interested in the information.

On 4/3/2022 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS
                    Certified, 2022

NVDA Certified Expert

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

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-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 



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George Kerscher
 

Hi,

 

It is the Notepad++ plugin Admin interface that is difficult.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

It might be NPPCrypt which is conflicting perhaps?

 

Using NVDA 2022.1 Beta 3 and Notepad++ 8.3.3 seems to work fine for me without any add-ons in either program.  Do you mean the interface for add-ons in NVDA is difficult, or Notepad++?  I must admit I haven't really looked at the add-on interface in Notepad++, but just to make sure you know in NVDA, if you want to disable add-ons to see if that helps a problem, you can press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter, to restart NVDA without add-ons.  The following time you start NVDA, it will prompt to re-enable add-ons.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 2:18 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am running now the 2022.1 beta 2 in continuous, not installed. Notepadd++ continues to crash.

 

I do have NPPCrypt installed.

 

I find it to be a reail pain to install and remove plugins. The interface is difficult to use.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

I saw on a list, I don't remember which one, that if you run the beta, the problem is solved.  But I see no point in the 64bit version.  What benefit is their in having a 64 bit text editor?  64 bit programs can handle large amounts of data more quickly and there are certain programs that benefit but a lot don't.  I've read that one kind of program that benefits is a data-base program.

Gene

On 4/3/2022 11:31 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

On another list, this question was asked. Apparently there is some sort of issue specifically with the 64 bit version of Notepad Plus plus and NVDA. Supposedly it is fixed for next full release.  However, I see no real advantage of the 64 bit over the 32 bit. I did n fact confirm the issue when for testing purposes, I did a complete uninstall of the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit version. To remedy this, I then uninstalled the 64 bit version and installed the older version 8.29 and then used what is apparently a combined version of the 8.33 installer, it detected the 32 bit version, installed a 32 bit version and the problem is solved for now.

if anyone can tell me the benefits of the 64 bit over the 32 bit version, I would be interested in the information.

On 4/3/2022 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

 

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

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Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

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Ok, a hard to navigate interface is not the same as a crash though.

Ok I had a look and when you go to the "plugins admin" screen in Notepad++, you can tab between a number of controls, but not the most important one, the list of plugins.

So to get to that list, open the dialog, and then press:
- Next object (NVDA+numpad 6 in desktop layout or NVDA+shift+right arrow in laptop layout) until you get to the "list".
- Move system focus to review position (NVDA+shift+numpad minus in desktop layout or NVDA+shift+backspace in laptop keyboard layout).

Once you have the focus on the plugin list, you can use the up and down arrow keys to move between options, and spacebar to select or deselect options - to install a plugin, select it then tab to the "install" button.  You can also tab to a pane with a description about the current plugin, although you'll need to use the steps above to get back to the list of plugins if you aren't finished after that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 6:57 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

It is the Notepad++ plugin Admin interface that is difficult.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

It might be NPPCrypt which is conflicting perhaps?

 

Using NVDA 2022.1 Beta 3 and Notepad++ 8.3.3 seems to work fine for me without any add-ons in either program.  Do you mean the interface for add-ons in NVDA is difficult, or Notepad++?  I must admit I haven't really looked at the add-on interface in Notepad++, but just to make sure you know in NVDA, if you want to disable add-ons to see if that helps a problem, you can press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter, to restart NVDA without add-ons.  The following time you start NVDA, it will prompt to re-enable add-ons.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 2:18 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am running now the 2022.1 beta 2 in continuous, not installed. Notepadd++ continues to crash.

 

I do have NPPCrypt installed.

 

I find it to be a reail pain to install and remove plugins. The interface is difficult to use.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

I saw on a list, I don't remember which one, that if you run the beta, the problem is solved.  But I see no point in the 64bit version.  What benefit is their in having a 64 bit text editor?  64 bit programs can handle large amounts of data more quickly and there are certain programs that benefit but a lot don't.  I've read that one kind of program that benefits is a data-base program.

Gene

On 4/3/2022 11:31 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

On another list, this question was asked. Apparently there is some sort of issue specifically with the 64 bit version of Notepad Plus plus and NVDA. Supposedly it is fixed for next full release.  However, I see no real advantage of the 64 bit over the 32 bit. I did n fact confirm the issue when for testing purposes, I did a complete uninstall of the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit version. To remedy this, I then uninstalled the 64 bit version and installed the older version 8.29 and then used what is apparently a combined version of the 8.33 installer, it detected the 32 bit version, installed a 32 bit version and the problem is solved for now.

if anyone can tell me the benefits of the 64 bit over the 32 bit version, I would be interested in the information.

On 4/3/2022 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

OH, it’s nvda? For me it’s the app itself, it freezes, then chokes, then crashes with some kind of exception. I’ll have to see if I can revert with choco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are people doing about Notepad++ version 8.3.x crashing with NVDA

 

George, can you be a bit more specific in what happens and what you do to make it happen?

Which version of NVDA are you using?

What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

What exactly happens once the problem occurs? Saying that NVDA crashes isn’t necessarily as specific as you might think.

Are you using any NVDA addons?

Does the problem occur when all addons are disabled?

 

 

 

Hi NVDA folks that use NotePad++

 

I discovered that Notepad++ 8.3.3 crashes  with NVDA. I use NPPcrypt, and had to have my son decrypt the files for me. What are people doing while this incompatibility gets fixed? I would discourage people going to version 8.3.x at this time. Can one just install 8.2.x over 8.3, or would this break plugins?

 

This also taught me a lesson about encrypting files and being careful not to depend on that software always working.

 

Best

George

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

-- 
Signature:
For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice;
For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement  and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!

 


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