locked Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 #addonrelease


 

Hi all,

Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 is now available:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/22.09/wintenApps-22.09.1.nvda-addon

 

You can download the release now or wait until Add-on Updater and similar tools offer it to you.

 

This release should be considered optional to critical update depending on which NVDA version you are using at the moment:

  • 2022.2.x: optional but recommended
  • 2022.3 beta: optional but recommended
  • Alpha snapshots (tracking 2022.4): critical

 

Version 22.09.1 includes a critical fix for NVDA alpha snapshot users where recent (and upcoming) builds may announce UIA powered drag and drop effects multiple times. In short, a future version of NVDA (likely 2022.4) will improve accessible drag and drop support, meaning you won’t need Windows App Essentials to hear announcements such as what happens when you rearrange Windows 10 Start menu tiles or quick settings items in Windows 11. In some cases, after installing the add-on update, you won’t hear focused item after dragging items, and that’s something I have no solution for… or rather, I’m preparing users for what will happen with future NVDA releases; I will let you experience it in upcoming Windows App Essentials add-on releases (if you are using dev builds of this add-on, you know what’s up) as early as October.

 

Note that Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 was queued for distribution on community add-ons website. But if you want to get it early, you can do it now by selecting the download link provided, or install Add-on Updater 22.09 and see the add-on update being offered to you by this time tomorrow (set add-on update source to community add-ons website).

Cheers,

Joseph


 

Hi all,

Quick, check for add-on updates via Add-on Updater. If the update source is set to community add-ons website, you'll see Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 as an update.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Only on windows 10 and 11 of course.
I still use 7 on a day to day basis, but that is due in the main to legacy software for bespoke uses.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 #addonrelease


Hi all,

Quick, check for add-on updates via Add-on Updater. If the update source is set to community add-ons website, you'll see Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 as an update.

Cheers,

Joseph


Louise Pfau
 

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 04:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Quick, check for add-on updates via Add-on Updater. If the update source is set to community add-ons website, you'll see Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 as an update.

Hi Joseph.  I just checked my settings, and the add-on updater source is set to the default "Community Add-ons website".  I haven't received the notification yet.  Is it still in the distribution queue?


Thanks,

Louise


Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks, received the update yesterday. You rock.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 11:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 #addonrelease

 

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 04:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Quick, check for add-on updates via Add-on Updater. If the update source is set to community add-ons website, you'll see Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 as an update.

Hi Joseph.  I just checked my settings, and the add-on updater source is set to the default "Community Add-ons website".  I haven't received the notification yet.  Is it still in the distribution queue?


Thanks,

Louise


 

Hi,

Approved for distribution last night, so yes, it is now available on the community add-ons website. Note that it can take up to 24 hours for the update to be offered to you.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 02:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Only on windows 10 and 11 of course.
I still use 7 on a day to day basis, but that is due in the main to legacy software for bespoke uses.
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The presumption in this group is that discussions of NVDA and NVDA add-ons are, by default, talking about current releases.

Yes, you can use NVDA under Windows 7, but I'd presume that certain add-ons have reached the point where they have dependencies on something in Windows that is not present in Windows 7.  That trend will only intensify as time marches on.

Some people are using old NVDA versions, too, but unless that's clearly stated the presumption should be that when a naked "NVDA" is used it means the current production release.  If you're using older, or beta, or alpha, that really needs to be identified explicitly.  And older NVDA versions are relegated to the Chat Subgroup as well.
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Hi,

Speaking as the author of Windows App Essentials: may I ask that when discussing this add-on that we DO NOT bring up Windows 7 anymore (please)?

Cheers,

Joseph


Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes but sometimes you see, x happens in an add on, and it can be of use to know that its also the case on older versions of windows.
I've not found many things not to work myself, but as this thread is about windows essentials, and this used to be called win 10 essentials, I'd hardly be using this on a windows 7 machine, so I sometimes point out that the issue is not in the win 10 essentials add on its probably elsewhere in those cases. Helps with the diagnostics, though a few minutes looking at the debug level log normally shows clearly if an add on has been implicated in a problem.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 #addonrelease


On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 02:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Only on windows 10 and 11 of course.
I still use 7 on a day to day basis, but that is due in the main to legacy
software for bespoke uses.
-
The presumption in this group is that discussions of NVDA and NVDA add-ons are, by default, talking about current releases.

Yes, you can use NVDA under Windows 7, but I'd presume that certain add-ons have reached the point where they have dependencies on something in Windows that is not present in Windows 7. That trend will only intensify as time marches on.

Some people are using old NVDA versions, too, but unless that's clearly stated the presumption should be that when a naked "NVDA" is used it means the current production release. If you're using older, or beta, or alpha, that really needs to be identified explicitly. And older NVDA versions are relegated to the Chat Subgroup as well.
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It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

~ Irving Babbitt


Brian's Mail list account
 

I just wrote this. pointing out that if a problem somebody thought was your add on if it happens in win 7 which does not use it, to me it proves the error is elsewhere.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows App Essentials 22.09.1 #addonrelease


Hi,

Speaking as the author of Windows App Essentials: may I ask that when discussing this add-on that we DO NOT bring up Windows 7 anymore (please)?

Cheers,

Joseph


 

Hi,

I get that. The cool thing is, Windows App Essentials will not even run on Windows 7 - one of the first things the add-on does when NVDA starts is check if you've got a compatible Windows 10 or 11 release, so on Windows 7, people can safely assume that the add-on will not cause problems unless an app is using the same executable name as that of a Windows 10 or 11 app.

Cheers,

Joseph


Louise Pfau
 

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Approved for distribution last night, so yes, it is now available on the community add-ons website. Note that it can take up to 24 hours for the update to be offered to you.

I received it shortly after posting the message.  I've had occasions where an add-on wasn't offered through Add-on Updater, and I've had to use the direct links to perform a manual download.

Thanks,

Louise


William James
 

Man, somebody has had their cereal urinated into this morning!  🚽

Pro Max

On Sep 7, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

Speaking as the author of Windows App Essentials: may I ask that when discussing this add-on that we DO NOT bring up Windows 7 anymore (please)?

Cheers,

Joseph


P. Otter
 

hello all,
I was installing this app but I get the message that I've a wrong windows version.
I do'nt understand it, becouse I've windows 10 with the last updates and the last version of nvda 2022.2
how can it be?
what can I do?
greetings paul otter


Op 8-9-2022 om 14:46 schreef Joseph Lee:

Hi,

I get that. The cool thing is, Windows App Essentials will not even run on Windows 7 - one of the first things the add-on does when NVDA starts is check if you've got a compatible Windows 10 or 11 release, so on Windows 7, people can safely assume that the add-on will not cause problems unless an app is using the same executable name as that of a Windows 10 or 11 app.

Cheers,

Joseph



tim
 

I can't blame him for asking this, because win 7 is dead and has ben for 3 years.

Things do move on that is call progress.


On 9/8/2022 11:49 PM, William James wrote:

Man, somebody has had their cereal urinated into this morning!  🚽

Pro Max

On Sep 7, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

Speaking as the author of Windows App Essentials: may I ask that when discussing this add-on that we DO NOT bring up Windows 7 anymore (please)?

Cheers,

Joseph


 

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 09:58 AM, tim wrote:
I can't blame him for asking this, because win 7 is dead and has been for 3 years.
-
It's also probable that Windows 7 support in NVDA itself will be disappearing within the next year.

Those who wish to continue using a supported version of NVDA had ought to take this on board and update to Windows 10 if they still have Windows 7.

The moment that NVDA drops support for Windows 7 I will assiduously enforce (as I do now) the rule about discussion of out-of-support (by both NVDA and Windows) software being inappropriate on the NVDA main group. [The Chat Subgroup is open season, and most conversation there is about how to use specific pieces of software where the "screen reader aspect" is incidental.]

People need to realize that it is difficult enough to deal with the combinations of things that actually remain in support, and it is not a good use of valuable time to keep "clutching corpses."
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Hi,

Okay, what does WinVer say?

Cheers,

Joseph


 

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 01:16 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Okay, what does WinVer say?
-
If it shows 20H2 or 21H1 at this point then something's not working right with Windows Update.  Someone else reported they were back on 20H2 in another topic this morning.  My advice there bears repeating: Go to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page, then activate the Update Now button/link to force an update to 21H2 (the November 2021 update).

Everyone, whether using Windows 10 or Windows 11, should be on Version 21H2 at the moment.
--

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It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

       ~ Irving Babbitt


matthew dyer
 

Matthew



Go to settings, windows update and look forthe download and install button and this should give you the latest version.  BTW What do you get when you type winver into the run box?  You should be at 22hblea as that is the latest windows 10.  HTH.



Paul,




On 9/9/2022 2:43 AM, P. Otter wrote:

hello all,
I was installing this app but I get the message that I've a wrong windows version.
I do'nt understand it, becouse I've windows 10 with the last updates and the last version of nvda 2022.2
how can it be?
what can I do?
greetings paul otter


Op 8-9-2022 om 14:46 schreef Joseph Lee:

Hi,

I get that. The cool thing is, Windows App Essentials will not even run on Windows 7 - one of the first things the add-on does when NVDA starts is check if you've got a compatible Windows 10 or 11 release, so on Windows 7, people can safely assume that the add-on will not cause problems unless an app is using the same executable name as that of a Windows 10 or 11 app.

Cheers,

Joseph



 

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 03:37 PM, matthew dyer wrote:
You should be at 22hblea as that is the latest windows 10.
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This topic will be locked after this post.

No 22H-anything releases are yet a part of the release channel.  You will not be getting 22XX by checking for windows updates, only 21H2.

And if a machine is currently saying anything earlier than 21H2 when winver is run, and it's been connected to the internet, something's wrong with Windows Update itself, so relying on it in any way makes no sense.

An external update method, such as the Update Now button on the Windows 10/11 Download Site, or an ISO-based update should be used to overcome whatever it is that's prevented the machine from updating normally in the first place.
--

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It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

       ~ Irving Babbitt