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Don H
 

How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.
Chris Smart
 

What? WordPerfect still exists?

I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect 6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.

On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.
Brian Vogel
 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
WordPerfect still exists?
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Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
David Goldfield
 

Admittedly, I have not worked with the Windows version of Wordperfect in 20 years as a student I was working with used it for her word processor. At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier. At the time it was completely accessible. I have no idea as to how the program's interface may have changed since that time.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

What? WordPerfect still exists?

I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect 6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.



On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen
readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.
Blaster
 

The program formerly from JASC, Paintshop Pro is now owned by Corel.
I only use it for scanning documents, but it was an accessible program
when it was owned by JASC and Corel has maintained it's accessibility,
so I'd hope that they'd do the same for Word Perfect.

Regards,
Blaster

On 12/19/20, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:
Admittedly, I have not worked with the Windows version of Wordperfect in 20
years as a student I was working with used it for her word processor. At
that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows
programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.
At the time it was completely accessible. I have no idea as to how the
program's interface may have changed since that time.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

What? WordPerfect still exists?

I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect
6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.



On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen
readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.
Brian Vogel
 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:42 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.
-
David,

          Related to this, did you ever get to play with SoftMaker Free Office, TextMaker in particular, if it was installed with the "use menus" style rather than the more typical ribbons?  I've already verified that the ribbons are not accessible, but the testing I was able to do suggested that the menus interface was completely accessible.

           It's a shame that the installer, where you have to make the choice of menus versus ribbons, is not (or wasn't for me) accessible, but that's a small price to pay if the three programs that are the equivalents of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are completely accessible via the menu-style interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Don H
 

So far no one has said they are currently using Word Perfect.

On 12/19/2020 8:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
What? WordPerfect still exists?
I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect 6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.
On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.
Arlene
 

Wow! Word Perfect does exist?  I only used word 5.1 when it was in doss.  I liked it. But I never tried other versions of it.  I went to word 97 when I was in college.  Then I went to outlook 2010 witch had word and others.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: December 19, 2020 10:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:42 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.

-
David,

          Related to this, did you ever get to play with SoftMaker Free Office, TextMaker in particular, if it was installed with the "use menus" style rather than the more typical ribbons?  I've already verified that the ribbons are not accessible, but the testing I was able to do suggested that the menus interface was completely accessible.

           It's a shame that the installer, where you have to make the choice of menus versus ribbons, is not (or wasn't for me) accessible, but that's a small price to pay if the three programs that are the equivalents of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are completely accessible via the menu-style interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 

 
Brian Vogel
 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 01:38 PM, Don H wrote:
So far no one has said they are currently using Word Perfect.
-
Correct.  And that should tell you something about the potential risk it might not be accessible.  It may be, but without confirmation from another screen reader user who uses it, and specifically the same version you could purchase for the price you mentioned, it's a crap shoot from an accessibility standpoint.

It would be interesting to have the accessibility confirmed or refuted, though.  I haven't personally known anyone using WordPerfect in many years, or I'd even be willing to try it out with a portable version of NVDA just for kicks.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
WordPerfect still exists?
-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Monte Single
 

Hi,

What is a v e p stand?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

WordPerfect still exists?

-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


you can get a trial copy of word Perfect

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

Hi,

What is a v e p stand?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

WordPerfect still exists?

-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Shaun Everiss
 

Well wordperfect I am not sure.

 there are 2 versions, coral wordperfect which I have never really used.

Or wordperfect from my oldgames.7z in my dos thing, I have not actually bothered installing the load of 720 floppies but one could try it I guess.



On 20/12/2020 4:52 pm, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

you can get a trial copy of word Perfect
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

Hi,

What is a v e p stand?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

WordPerfect still exists?

-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


corell bought Word Perfect. though it is basically accessible it has one major problem. you cannot select with NVDA. I typed some text and then placed the cursor at the beginning of that text and pressed shift+end and the text disappeared. even shift left arrow seems to delete the text.
 
i was going through their tutorial and they asked me to access the header/footer bar. i could not find it with screen review. Nor did any bar appear when reading the entire window.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

Well wordperfect I am not sure.

 there are 2 versions, coral wordperfect which I have never really used.

Or wordperfect from my oldgames.7z in my dos thing, I have not actually bothered installing the load of 720 floppies but one could try it I guess.



On 20/12/2020 4:52 pm, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

you can get a trial copy of word Perfect
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

Hi,

What is a v e p stand?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

WordPerfect still exists?

-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I am a bit late on this thread, but here's my two cents. I used Word Perfect 5.0, 5.1 for DOS.  Then I used 6.0 and 6.1 for Windows.  This was before Corel bought it. I used Word Perfect 12.0 as late as 2010 and it was largely accessible--at least in so far as the Word Perfect program itself--I mean the editor.  Quatro Pro and (wow it's been so long I  forget what the oither elements of the suite were called) were limited in their accessibility.  But if you wanted to use the main editor called Corel Word Perfect 12, it was quite accessible. This was a long time ago, if possible, see if you can get a demo of the program and check its accessibility, you might be surprised.  And then again, who knows?



On 12/19/2020 3:22 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
WordPerfect still exists?
-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


-- 
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Shaun Everiss
 

Well I don't see much use for wordperfect since ms word can decode it.

Wordperfect as it is now is not the wordperfect that existed before.

Even in the old days I rarely used it.

I had keysoft then but it was still given to me.

Somewhere I have a licence number, but I never got it.



On 20/12/2020 6:36 pm, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

corell bought Word Perfect. though it is basically accessible it has one major problem. you cannot select with NVDA. I typed some text and then placed the cursor at the beginning of that text and pressed shift+end and the text disappeared. even shift left arrow seems to delete the text.
 
i was going through their tutorial and they asked me to access the header/footer bar. i could not find it with screen review. Nor did any bar appear when reading the entire window.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

Well wordperfect I am not sure.

 there are 2 versions, coral wordperfect which I have never really used.

Or wordperfect from my oldgames.7z in my dos thing, I have not actually bothered installing the load of 720 floppies but one could try it I guess.



On 20/12/2020 4:52 pm, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

you can get a trial copy of word Perfect
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

Hi,

What is a v e p stand?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

WordPerfect still exists?

-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 
Gene
 

You may be able to select text using NVDA itself, the insert f9 and insert f10 method. Someone would have to try it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 11:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect


corell bought Word Perfect. though it is basically accessible it has one major problem. you cannot select with NVDA. I typed some text and then placed the cursor at the beginning of that text and pressed shift+end and the text disappeared. even shift left arrow seems to delete the text.

i was going through their tutorial and they asked me to access the header/footer bar. i could not find it with screen review. Nor did any bar appear when reading the entire window.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Everiss
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect


Well wordperfect I am not sure.

there are 2 versions, coral wordperfect which I have never really used.

Or wordperfect from my oldgames.7z in my dos thing, I have not actually bothered installing the load of 720 floppies but one could try it I guess.







On 20/12/2020 4:52 pm, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

you can get a trial copy of word Perfect

----- Original Message -----
From: Monte Single
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect


Hi,

What is a v e p stand?



Cheers,



Monte





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect







I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.



----- Original Message -----



From: Brian Vogel



To: nvda@nvda.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM



Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect







On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:



WordPerfect still exists?



-
Apparently so. Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:] Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next. We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner
Josh Kennedy
 

Earlier in this conversation somebody mentioned VEP stand for DOS. What is BEP stand? What does VEP stand do?
mk360
 

Same reaction here, I used it under msdos with Word Perfect 5.1, the last version that I've used was 6.0.

El 19/12/2020 a las 16:16, Arlene escribió:

Wow! Word Perfect does exist?  I only used word 5.1 when it was in doss.  I liked it. But I never tried other versions of it.  I went to word 97 when I was in college.  Then I went to outlook 2010 witch had word and others.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: December 19, 2020 10:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:42 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.

-
David,

          Related to this, did you ever get to play with SoftMaker Free Office, TextMaker in particular, if it was installed with the "use menus" style rather than the more typical ribbons?  I've already verified that the ribbons are not accessible, but the testing I was able to do suggested that the menus interface was completely accessible.

           It's a shame that the installer, where you have to make the choice of menus versus ribbons, is not (or wasn't for me) accessible, but that's a small price to pay if the three programs that are the equivalents of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are completely accessible via the menu-style interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:]  Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 

 
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